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Old Sep 2, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Fellow Supercharger enthusiasts,

I have an '02 Z06 with a P1SC Procharger. I have had the car a year and I have noticed that the Fuel Pressure Pillar meter has typically read between 57 PSI and 62 PSI. However, very recently, I noticed that the fuel pressure is reading 52, 53 PSI. I don't know if this has anything to do with the outside temperatures. Southern California this week is in a heat wave and it has been in the low 100's this week.

I have a Lingenfelter fuel pump which from what I understand is a respectable fuel pump and it was installed with the supercharger in 2004.

I have not noticed anything different in the car's behavior (e.g. no pinging). Are these PSI levels anything I need to be concerned about? If these PSI values are fine, out of curiosity, what PSI levels does one have to be concerned about.

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Is it doing it cold? If so, it probably is just the fuel heating up.
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I don't think it is just only when its cold. For example, I made several separate errands to the store and the oil temp was 190.
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Fellow Supercharger enthusiasts,

I have an '02 Z06 with a P1SC Procharger. I have had the car a year and I have noticed that the Fuel Pressure Pillar meter has typically read between 57 PSI and 62 PSI. However, very recently, I noticed that the fuel pressure is reading 52, 53 PSI. I don't know if this has anything to do with the outside temperatures. Southern California this week is in a heat wave and it has been in the low 100's this week.

I have a Lingenfelter fuel pump which from what I understand is a respectable fuel pump and it was installed with the supercharger in 2004.

I have not noticed anything different in the car's behavior (e.g. no pinging). Are these PSI levels anything I need to be concerned about? If these PSI values are fine, out of curiosity, what PSI levels does one have to be concerned about.

Thanks,
Matt
I'm down in central Florida and running the factory fuel pump & lines with 38lb. injectors and my pressure stays at about 64lbs, drops to about 59 when I'm @ full boost. I'm running a twin STS kit and we have 100% humidity here and an average temp of at least 95 degrees in the past few weeks. I'm using Defi electronic gauges so they are very accurate.

I would check your fuel filter and replace it if need be. Its fairly easy to get to even if you dont have an access to a lift. The lines are all quick connect. Hope this helps in comparision.


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My autometer electric fuel pressure bought on eBay used is always at 52 and has never matched the dyno fuel pressures on two occasions which run around 60. I have a Walbro 255, K-B BAP and Racetronix wiring harness. I've got to think a bad guage or sensor, or how I have it wired must make it read low. I've posted this before with no suggestions. But maybe someone knows what is going on.
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My autometer electric fuel pressure bought on eBay used is always at 52 and has never matched the dyno fuel pressures on two occasions which run around 60. I have a Walbro 255, K-B BAP and Racetronix wiring harness. I've got to think a bad guage or sensor, or how I have it wired must make it read low. I've posted this before with no suggestions. But maybe someone knows what is going on.
The sensors are sensitive to heat. The hotter they get the lower they read. Do not mount it on the end of your fuel rail.
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Old Sep 3, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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The sensors are sensitive to heat. The hotter they get the lower they read. Do not mount it on the end of your fuel rail.


My Autometer is reading the same way now with these 95 degree days (55psi down to 52psi @ WOT)....and YES, the sending unit is mounted on the end of the fuel rail! In 60 dgree weather it reads 57psi...so, now I have the reason...THANKS, Racetronix!!.....uhhh, exactly where should the sensor be mounted to avoid heat?
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My Autometer is reading the same way now with these 95 degree days (55psi down to 52psi @ WOT)....and YES, the sending unit is mounted on the end of the fuel rail! In 60 dgree weather it reads 57psi...so, now I have the reason...THANKS, Racetronix!!.....uhhh, exactly where should the sensor be mounted to avoid heat?
I would like to know where to mount it as well.
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I would like to know where to mount it as well.
Me also Probably the reason why i have had to replace one already.
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I used a braided line that already had a pre-fabbed fitting. It was a little long but I had it on the shelf already. I needed some brass adapters (also used what was on hand) to connect it to the sender, which is now ziptied next to the brake booster along the firewall. I'll put up a pic shortly...

Many say that the vibration from being mounted directly to the fuel rail will result in a shortened life for the sender.

In response to the original question, even with my sender located near the firewall, my pressure on a 90F+ day in traffic had my gauge going down to 52psi vs the 59-60 it normally reads, so I don't think the location under the hood makes much difference in that regard.
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Mine also is mounted at the end of the fuel rail. In Phoenix it is always hot enough to make it run lower if sensitive to heat. Where would be a better place to mount the sensor?
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It is best to use a mechanical gauge or another brand with a better sensor.
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I'm looking into an Autometer braided stainless steel extension which would remove the sensor to a remote location but still connected to the fuel rail fitting. They offer in 3, 4, or 6 ft lengths.
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Here are the pics of my sensor mounting I mentioned a few posts prior.
You can't see the line from the fuel rail but there are no adapters used, just removal of the schrader valve and the -4 female end screws over it.

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