C5/Z Supercharger Thread, Stock Bottom
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C5/Z Supercharger Thread, Stock Bottom
i know what your probably think, oh no not another which is better thread. well that is not the purpose. i am making this thread to gather as much strict information on each blower set upavailable, personal experiences, results and opinions. this is for C5s with stock bottom ls1 or ls6s concerning BLOWERS only. as far as i see it, the choices are
procharger, p1 seems best suited for stock motor.
vortech, i dont know much, maybe t trim.
paxton novi 2000.
maggie
kenne bell, 2.6 i assume
i would think you could make a little more power with one of the centrifigal setups concerning their linear characteristics, however the roots or twin screws might perform better down low, however may not be as safe to run as much boost creating less overall hp.
also would like information on each unit, install opinions, head unit oiling set up, sound of the unit, and overall input.
post up is you have any videos, results, and personal experience information as well.
if your going to discuss a certain blower setup, please do not cram more into one paragraph, please break it up with the blower setup at the top.
thank you!
procharger, p1 seems best suited for stock motor.
vortech, i dont know much, maybe t trim.
paxton novi 2000.
maggie
kenne bell, 2.6 i assume
i would think you could make a little more power with one of the centrifigal setups concerning their linear characteristics, however the roots or twin screws might perform better down low, however may not be as safe to run as much boost creating less overall hp.
also would like information on each unit, install opinions, head unit oiling set up, sound of the unit, and overall input.
post up is you have any videos, results, and personal experience information as well.
if your going to discuss a certain blower setup, please do not cram more into one paragraph, please break it up with the blower setup at the top.
thank you!
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We have two stock bottom end cars with stock heads in the 9's with our Novi kit. Dont think any other kit can make that claim.. Nuff Said 
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As most of the threads state.. it really depends on what YOU want.
I have a Procharger P1, which works great for me.
My buddy (same car) has a maggie, which works perfect for him. He's a canyon freak, I'm an open road guy.
The torque curves are totally different.
I have a Procharger P1, which works great for me.
My buddy (same car) has a maggie, which works perfect for him. He's a canyon freak, I'm an open road guy.
The torque curves are totally different.
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I have a Procharger P1 with ported heads, LS6 intake, blower cam and Kooks and stock bottom end. I absolutely love it. I'm only running 6 lbs of boost putting down 520 HP/466 TQ. It is plenty for the street and what I love most about it is it pulls harder the faster you go.
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good input! Does anyone have any hard facts on some of these systems such as oiling, type/placement of intercooler(s)? I know the procharger uses 2 intercoolers and it self contained for oil, unsure on the rest. Tapping into the engines oil is a big downfall for me.
Also if we could get some videos of some of these different setups that would be great, i would like to hear them all to compare!
Also if we could get some videos of some of these different setups that would be great, i would like to hear them all to compare!
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i know what your probably think, oh no not another which is better thread. well that is not the purpose. i am making this thread to gather as much strict information on each blower set upavailable, personal experiences, results and opinions. this is for C5s with stock bottom ls1 or ls6s concerning BLOWERS only. as far as i see it, the choices are
procharger, p1 seems best suited for stock motor.
vortech, i dont know much, maybe t trim.
paxton novi 2000.
maggie
kenne bell, 2.6 i assume
i would think you could make a little more power with one of the centrifigal setups concerning their linear characteristics, however the roots or twin screws might perform better down low, however may not be as safe to run as much boost creating less overall hp.
also would like information on each unit, install opinions, head unit oiling set up, sound of the unit, and overall input.
post up is you have any videos, results, and personal experience information as well.
if your going to discuss a certain blower setup, please do not cram more into one paragraph, please break it up with the blower setup at the top.
thank you!
procharger, p1 seems best suited for stock motor.
vortech, i dont know much, maybe t trim.
paxton novi 2000.
maggie
kenne bell, 2.6 i assume
i would think you could make a little more power with one of the centrifigal setups concerning their linear characteristics, however the roots or twin screws might perform better down low, however may not be as safe to run as much boost creating less overall hp.
also would like information on each unit, install opinions, head unit oiling set up, sound of the unit, and overall input.
post up is you have any videos, results, and personal experience information as well.
if your going to discuss a certain blower setup, please do not cram more into one paragraph, please break it up with the blower setup at the top.
thank you!
Jon, check out the ATI ProCharger D-1SC that we installed on this 2004 C5. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=54 Bob
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Jon, check out the ATI ProCharger D-1SC that we installed on this 2004 C5. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=54 Bob
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Buy the ECS Paxton Kit (kit is the key word) with the restricter plate, to limit the boost to 7lbs which is very stock bottom friendly. You won't need to buy anything else to upgrade such as brackets, inner coolers, bigger head units, etc. Look at all the up grades for other kits that are always for sale here, and they still don't match up to the stock ECS KIT. When/if you decide to add a forged bottom all you have to do is remove the restricter plate in the air filter and add a smaller pulley.
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Still looking for some basic info on the paxton kit. What does it use for intercoolers, how is the head unit oiled, etc.
Bob, for a stock bottom end car looking for 525-550 rwhp, wouldnt you recommend the p1sc unit over the d1sc? I would think that would be right in the best zone for a p1sc to shine, might make a little better mid range over the d1sc is my guess, but your the procharger pro. FWIW, this would be with no intentions of going higher.
Bob, for a stock bottom end car looking for 525-550 rwhp, wouldnt you recommend the p1sc unit over the d1sc? I would think that would be right in the best zone for a p1sc to shine, might make a little better mid range over the d1sc is my guess, but your the procharger pro. FWIW, this would be with no intentions of going higher.
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Would also like some more info on the Maggie, all i know is they have some sick down low torque but are known to fall off a bit up top.
Also, Kenne Bells are known for being nasty on the Cobras, what about lower boost on a vette? Any info here? Thanks!
Also, Kenne Bells are known for being nasty on the Cobras, what about lower boost on a vette? Any info here? Thanks!
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The Nova 2000 head unit gets it's oil from the crankcase (so you don't have to change it or worry about it)
Your goal of 525-550 is a very nice number for a street car and the Paxton Nova 2000 will not break a sweat doing it.
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If you search for Kenne Bell you find a lot of recent thread on it as well as some old ones.
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Still looking for some basic info on the paxton kit. What does it use for intercoolers, how is the head unit oiled, etc.
Bob, for a stock bottom end car looking for 525-550 rwhp, wouldnt you recommend the p1sc unit over the d1sc? I would think that would be right in the best zone for a p1sc to shine, might make a little better mid range over the d1sc is my guess, but your the procharger pro. FWIW, this would be with no intentions of going higher.
Bob, for a stock bottom end car looking for 525-550 rwhp, wouldnt you recommend the p1sc unit over the d1sc? I would think that would be right in the best zone for a p1sc to shine, might make a little better mid range over the d1sc is my guess, but your the procharger pro. FWIW, this would be with no intentions of going higher.
Bob
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Thanks! So a D1SC is the ticket for a procharger. I still haven't gotten any feedback on the A&A Vortech kit. Also, can you get the Paxton kit with a self contained head unit?
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Here is a couple of vids, one on the dyno, 551 rwhp and one at the strip. First time ever, on cold street tires with a badly slipping clutch.
The Procharger works for what I do, HPDEs, but I have had serious belt slip issues lately. Getting an upgraded bracket installed this week so we'll see how it goes.
The Procharger works for what I do, HPDEs, but I have had serious belt slip issues lately. Getting an upgraded bracket installed this week so we'll see how it goes.
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It is the original HO kit with P1SC-1, with dual ICs, with the radiator laid back to keep original fans. It has an upgraded fuel pump and 60# injectors with FLP long tubes. I daily drive mine so the Procharger works well as it is just a normal car until you get to about 3500 rpms, then it becomes a rocket sled. Other than belt slip issues, which hopefully the newer bracket will fix, it stands up pretty well to the abuse it takes during track days. Hope this helps.
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if you like novi... ECS novi 2200 is proven and also very nice.