Possible meth issues in the future?
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Possible meth issues in the future?
Guys,
I recently bought a car that was tuned to rely on meth for it's fuel under boost. It has a alkycontrol meth kit installed that is in good working condition. I moniter it like a hawk so I'm sure if it dies I will be the first to know. Has anyone out there ever had a problem with tuning a car this way or with one of these kits? I feel the kit is of great quality, but stuff happens as we all know.
BTW Julio is a GREAT guy to deal with. Answered several of my questions as if I just spent a boatload of money with him. Great service for a potential customer! I will definetly be referring people to him in the future.
I recently bought a car that was tuned to rely on meth for it's fuel under boost. It has a alkycontrol meth kit installed that is in good working condition. I moniter it like a hawk so I'm sure if it dies I will be the first to know. Has anyone out there ever had a problem with tuning a car this way or with one of these kits? I feel the kit is of great quality, but stuff happens as we all know.
BTW Julio is a GREAT guy to deal with. Answered several of my questions as if I just spent a boatload of money with him. Great service for a potential customer! I will definetly be referring people to him in the future.
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As long as you test the system 100% of the time just before you go into boost I see nothing wrong with setting up the car this way.
But then if you dont, be ready to pay the price!
But then if you dont, be ready to pay the price!
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The safety net for meth, is tuning timing xxx amount to pull when IAT's rise above xxx temp... When in boost, my tuning pulls 5 degrees at 90 degree IAT's and ramps up from there... my normal IATs are high 70's to low 80's... If you lose methanol from a failure, IAT's rise 20+degrees in a nanosecond... Just make sure you have a tuner that actually knows how to tune for meth, and doesn't just say that he knows...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
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The safety net for meth, is tuning timing xxx amount to pull when IAT's rise above xxx temp... When in boost, my tuning pulls 5 degrees at 90 degree IAT's and ramps up from there... my normal IATs are high 70's to low 80's... If you lose methanol from a failure, IAT's rise 20+degrees in a nanosecond... Just make sure you have a tuner that actually knows how to tune for meth, and doesn't just say that he knows...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
But on my own car, when on the road.....meth or no meth, my intake temps stay pretty close to ambient anyway.
If meth stops working, intake temps will rise, but they could still be within the "safe" zone due to temperature sensor response time, so damage could still easily occur.
And using a temperature based tuning method, heat soak at the track, would cause massive timing retard for the initial part of the track, when it probably isnt needed.
So you could use IAT as a safety net, but IMO its a heavily compromised method.
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Couldn't you set the timing pull to be at xxx ramped degrees in conjunction with positive MAP at that same time?? That would keep you from losing part throttle off boost/meth timing and still cover you when you're under boost and you lose the meth causing the IAT spike since you're in a +MAP situation then.
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The safety net for meth, is tuning timing xxx amount to pull when IAT's rise above xxx temp... When in boost, my tuning pulls 5 degrees at 90 degree IAT's and ramps up from there... my normal IATs are high 70's to low 80's... If you lose methanol from a failure, IAT's rise 20+degrees in a nanosecond... Just make sure you have a tuner that actually knows how to tune for meth, and doesn't just say that he knows...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
LOL at the ... I have only heard good things about talyor.
And that makes iat sensor location and nozzle placement very important!!!
BTW when I stop breaking clutches we need to go to mexico. Is that
761 with bottle also? I make 800trq and 730hp boost ONLY...11lbs.
Should be fun.
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The safety net for meth, is tuning timing xxx amount to pull when IAT's rise above xxx temp... When in boost, my tuning pulls 5 degrees at 90 degree IAT's and ramps up from there... my normal IATs are high 70's to low 80's... If you lose methanol from a failure, IAT's rise 20+degrees in a nanosecond... Just make sure you have a tuner that actually knows how to tune for meth, and doesn't just say that he knows...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
Methanol is the ONLY reason that we have pushed my little P1SC stock LS2 bottom to a best of 761rwhp last week (with the addition of a new 8rib system)...
IAT placement is critical for this to work properly, but it does work great. I have tested it several times on purpose to be sure.
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