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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Does anyone know where to find a VERY detailed writeup/photos on how to do the radiator drop modification to run the updated "over the radiator" procharger setup?
I need to move the radiator "down" enough to allow me to run the breather "over" it. Procharger sells a new cradle, but I REALLY don't need to spend the money if I can make the mod myself
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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A & A Corvette sells this kit to lower the cradle and radiator so their breather goes over the radiator without having to lay it down. Hope this helps.

http://www.aacorvette.com/supercharg...roducts_id=278
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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I think it's going to depend on the version of Procharger kit you have, the one Bottlefed had provided is for the latest A&A kit that uses the intake pipe he has designed.
It only lowers the rad slightly if you are using another intake pipe for the blower you really want the earlier L shaped brackets that lay the radiator down.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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i know every application is different but what would an estimated hp increase would be expected going from the stock procharger type breather(behind the rad.) to a breather that runs over top of the rad???
for instance a p1 making 9psi..
sorry to hijack the thread.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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I hope/wish that one will work. Procharger sells the upgrade "package" for $700 which is way out of range right now after all I've spent on this thing

Stangbang
According to a article that compared the HO to the stage two, they said it was good for 30-40hp difference (probably on a stock set up)

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I guess I will use whatever intake I CAN use (read; fit) I am asking all the questions I can, to try and find out what I will need. I just know I'm not going to run the "flat filter" and swap out the stock shroud/fans
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLE FED
I hope/wish that one will work. Procharger sells the upgrade "package" for $700 which is way out of range right now after all I've spent on this thing

Stangbang
According to a article that compared the HO to the stage two, they said it was good for 30-40hp difference (probably on a stock set up)

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I guess I will use whatever intake I CAN use (read; fit) I am asking all the questions I can, to try and find out what I will need. I just know I'm not going to run the "flat filter" and swap out the stock shroud/fans

Call Andy @ A&A, but would suspect it would cost around $200. That's 4 spacers + molded supercharger air inlet + filter.

Spacers lower radiator cradle
Molded supercharger inlet - this gets you over radiator
Filter for above

Then you will need some sort of shroud to enclose it.


Mike
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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It's pretty easy to move the bottom forward and weld it in place. You do have to straighten out the a/c hose S L O W L Y to get a little extra length on it. I can shoot you some pics if you need it.
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I had to do the same when I installed my APS kit.

What I did was this- cut off the two stock lower brackets that support the radiator in its stock location.

Then I simply moved them to the front side of the lower cradle, almost exactly on the other side of where they originally were.

Rewelded them, and the 4" APS pipe fits right over the top of the radiator.

This pitched the radiator back just a bit, and down enough for the proper upper clearance.

Works like a charm.

If you want, I can take a couple of pics to give you an idea.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Thanks guys; This is exactly what I need.
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Tim,
I got your PM.
I'll also post the pics here for anyone that might be interested.
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Relocated radiator mounts

driver side



passenger side

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Tim,
I got your PM.
I'll also post the pics here for anyone that might be interested.
So to clarify, the piece you moved was the bracket that mounts on the front side of the 1"x1" bar.
I wonder if I could drill a couple of holes and bolt it in place since I don't weld worth a darn
So it will drop straight in after this bracket is moved?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Yes, the bracket that the rubber grommet sits on.
It originally mounts to the rear.
I just ground down the old welds, and then chiseled under the bracket to remove as much material as possible without damaging the support itself.
Clean up any metal with a grinder/sander, flip the brackets to the front, reposition the radiator, and either weld or bolt the brackets back on.

If you bolt it, make sure it is very secure.
You don't want the radiator bouncing around.

Then hit it with some paint to prevent rust.

You will have to find the best position for the relocation of the brackets, but yes, the radiator will drop right back in.

Did you get all the pics I sent?

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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You really did a clean job on it. I can hardly see where it was.
I'll check tomorrow on the photos.

"You will have to find the best position for the relocation of the brackets, but yes, the radiator will drop right back in."

Are you referring to the top brackets or the ones shown?

Thanks again for all the help guys. This looks do-able
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLE FED
You really did a clean job on it. I can hardly see where it was.
I'll check tomorrow on the photos.

"You will have to find the best position for the relocation of the brackets, but yes, the radiator will drop right back in."

Are you referring to the top brackets or the ones shown?

Thanks again for all the help guys. This looks do-able
I'm referring to the lower brackets shown.
What I mean is that as you are positioning the radiator, you will find the best location to reattach the lower brackets.
I'd suggest putting the top inlet pipe in place, which will limit how high you can pick up the radiator, and this will help you find the best position for the lower brackets.

It will take some figuring out, but you can make it work, I have no doubt.
When you see the other pics I sent, it may help a bit.
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Will this alone provide enough room to mount a 4" tube with clearance?
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For my turbo kit, the way I did it, yes, 4" clears.
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Do you have any pics of your inlet tube clearance over the radiator? I don't doubt you at all on it clearing, just trying to wrap my head around moving the bracket one inch making that much difference. Thanks!!!

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Will this alone provide enough room to mount a 4" tube with clearance?
NO. This will not give you enough clearance. I did this before I realized it was a turbo car, and it didn't give me near enough clearance. I moved them BACK to the original side and did the other mod I that I described in my replied to you in the post
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