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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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I tried a search and couldnt really find what I was looking for.

What is the best headgaskets for a twin turbo setup that will see pretty high boost? Cometic? Stock MLS? Fel-Pro MLS?

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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I run the GM LS3 MLS gaskets on my SC Vette w/ LS2 block and AFR 225 heads.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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How much psi are you pushing?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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How much psi are you pushing?
I have run as much as 18 PSI without lift / leak issues. I do also have 7/16 inch C5R multiphase head studs from Katech at 95 ft-lbf (Time Sert thread conversion in block to accept 7/16 threads).

I definitely recommend the GM multi-layer steel gasket in the correct bore size for your application (make sure you consider the combustion chamber diameter of your heads in addition to the cylinder bore). I ran the SCE Titan ICS gaskets initially and they leaked water at over 18 PSI (19.4) after several passes. I did run the SCE gaskets with Yamabond #4 around the water courses, heat cycled them with no water, and retorqued the head studs before adding water and making passes, so I think I did everything I could to help them not leak under extreme cylinder pressure.

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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I'm going to be running cometic gaskets at around 14 PSI on my LS3 short/317 head setup. Hoping not to run into any issues.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Ran cometic last year with head studs and o-ring heads, no issues.
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Originally Posted by R6_C5_CLS55
I run the GM LS3 MLS gaskets on my SC Vette w/ LS2 block and AFR 225 heads.
What's the bore size on those gaskets? Are your AFR heads the small bore?

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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I will most likely see more than 14-16 psi EVENTUALLY so I wanna prepare for that.
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I'm running an OEM GM 5 layer MLS gasket with ARP studs.



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I like the Fel-pro's, there a 4 layer with a nice tacky surface, your only supposed to open the package when your ready to use them. The GM MLS are all good too and for the price they just cannot be beat. Just make sure to use the correct sized bore gasket for head your using.
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Originally Posted by 95vettski
What's the bore size on those gaskets? Are your AFR heads the small bore?

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The bore size on the GM LS3 gasket is 4.100 inches. Also note it is a 5-layer steel gasket (as opposed to the 3-layer GM LS2 MLS gasket). I believe the gasket thickness is 0.051 inch.

My AFR heads are the 225s, which are the larger than the 205s. I did have the heads milled a bit from 72cc down to 67cc to bring the SCR up to 8.9:1 since I am using -30cc Wiseco coated pistons.
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I'll be using 317 heads on an ls1 block...do I need 3.905" or the large bore gaskets?
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Originally Posted by R6_C5_CLS55
My AFR heads are the 225s, which are the larger than the 205s. I did have the heads milled a bit from 72cc down to 67cc to bring the SCR up to 8.9:1 since I am using -30cc Wiseco coated pistons.
I was under the impression that with the AFR 225's you need to use a gasket with a minimum bore size of 4.125 according to AFR? This unshrouds the valves and prevents possible detonation.
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Originally Posted by 95vettski
I was under the impression that with the AFR 225's you need to use a gasket with a minimum bore size of 4.125 according to AFR? This unshrouds the valves and prevents possible detonation.
What happens to the combustion chamber diameter when you mill the heads to reduce the combustion chamber volume from 72cc to 67cc?

Also, I used a 0.051 inch thick gasket and not a 0.040 inch thick gasket.

We did measure and test fit the gaskets on the heads before installing them.

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Originally Posted by 95vettski
I was under the impression that with the AFR 225's you need to use a gasket with a minimum bore size of 4.125 according to AFR? This unshrouds the valves and prevents possible detonation.
Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't make any sense to me. The gasket should only be as large or a little larger than the bore. If the bore is 3.905 and you have a 4.125 gasket, the shrouding is going to come from the cylinder walls.
For the record, I am running 18psi on MLS with ARP studs with no issues.
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Originally Posted by Corvette-Chris
I'll be using 317 heads on an ls1 block...do I need 3.905" or the large bore gaskets?
Use a 6.0L gasket and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by BLOWNBLUEZ06
Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't make any sense to me. The gasket should only be as large or a little larger than the bore. If the bore is 3.905 and you have a 4.125 gasket, the shrouding is going to come from the cylinder walls.
For the record, I am running 18psi on MLS with ARP studs with no issues.
Gasket needs to be bigger than the chamber, AFR 225's have a 4.125 chamber. If the gasket hangs inside the chamber then this can lead to a possible hot spot and detonate. BUT, I have seen cars use the wrong size gasket an have no issues-alot change when your FI.
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Originally Posted by BLOWNBLUEZ06
Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't make any sense to me. The gasket should only be as large or a little larger than the bore. If the bore is 3.905 and you have a 4.125 gasket, the shrouding is going to come from the cylinder walls.
For the record, I am running 18psi on MLS with ARP studs with no issues.
Originally Posted by Arun@ChampionMotors
Use a 6.0L gasket and you'll be fine.
Thanks Bret and Arun. Thats what I was looking for
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Originally Posted by BLOWNZO6
I use stock GM gaskets everything...
This last time around I used Cometic, didnt have any problems, but I never have with the GM stuff before either. I will stick with the GM MLS stuff.

Anyone know the part number for the 5 layer gasket?
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