Mythbusters
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 5
From: Oldham County Louisville, KY
Mythbusters
Considering a Supercharger for my Z but I have heard stories about them always throwing belts, belt slippage, having to change the oil every 3K miles... Blah, blah, blah...
What is the real story
What is the real story
Team Owner
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 21,473
Likes: 356
From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
I had no problem with mine as many don't as well!
It all comes down to set-up and doing it right - I slapped on a FLIP-DRIVE which isolates the SuperCharger belt all by itself and give a huge amount of belt wrap!
I'm only running 14.4 PSI of B@@ST on a LS1 making 701 RWHP!
Many more here dwarf my set-up and they are not running the FLIP-DRIVE!
You wont regret doing FI at all
Thanks,Matt
It all comes down to set-up and doing it right - I slapped on a FLIP-DRIVE which isolates the SuperCharger belt all by itself and give a huge amount of belt wrap!
I'm only running 14.4 PSI of B@@ST on a LS1 making 701 RWHP!
Many more here dwarf my set-up and they are not running the FLIP-DRIVE!
You wont regret doing FI at all
Thanks,Matt
Drifting
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta GA
Matt you responded to my post earlier about upgrading a stage 1 procharger and said that I should get the A&A bracket.
Would I still need the upgraded bracket if I decided to get the flip drive instead?
Would I still need the upgraded bracket if I decided to get the flip drive instead?
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 0
From: Oil Country
What PSI are you running at and 6 rib or 8 rib? If your car is set up like mine, the new A&A bracket is all you need. If you'd prefer the flip drive and hope to retain the stock bracket, you'll probably be fine with that as well.
Look for a thread I posted a while ago regarding re-clocking of a Procharger head-unit and the A&A bracket install. It was really quite easy and the belt wrap from the new bracket is very impressive!
Maybe Matt can chime in with his opinion!
Drifting
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta GA
What PSI are you running at and 6 rib or 8 rib? If your car is set up like mine, the new A&A bracket is all you need. If you'd prefer the flip drive and hope to retain the stock bracket, you'll probably be fine with that as well.
Look for a thread I posted a while ago regarding re-clocking of a Procharger head-unit and the A&A bracket install. It was really quite easy and the belt wrap from the new bracket is very impressive!
Maybe Matt can chime in with his opinion!
Look for a thread I posted a while ago regarding re-clocking of a Procharger head-unit and the A&A bracket install. It was really quite easy and the belt wrap from the new bracket is very impressive!
Maybe Matt can chime in with his opinion!
I will look for your post
Team Owner
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 21,473
Likes: 356
From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
What PSI are you running at and 6 rib or 8 rib? If your car is set up like mine, the new A&A bracket is all you need. If you'd prefer the flip drive and hope to retain the stock bracket, you'll probably be fine with that as well.
Look for a thread I posted a while ago regarding re-clocking of a Procharger head-unit and the A&A bracket install. It was really quite easy and the belt wrap from the new bracket is very impressive!
Maybe Matt can chime in with his opinion!
Look for a thread I posted a while ago regarding re-clocking of a Procharger head-unit and the A&A bracket install. It was really quite easy and the belt wrap from the new bracket is very impressive!
Maybe Matt can chime in with his opinion!
There is nothing wrong with doing things in stages - You would be well served to start with the A&A bracket and go from there!
Future wise the FLIP-DRIVE is the way to go, especially if you decide to add B@@ST, Forged motor etc.
As CDNWS6 said the belt wrap on the A&A is quite impressive and will do well until you see belt slip or voltage drop (Due to having belt slip - ARUN confirmed this when belt slip occurs)
Let us know your decision and then we'll all go from there
Thanks,Matt
Corvette Stories
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!
Joe Kucinski
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter
Joe Kucinski
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)
Joe Kucinski
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!
Brett Foote
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know
Joe Kucinski
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2
Michael S. Palmer
Former Vendor
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 7,607
Likes: 1
From: ECS Sales & Service Advisor
Cruise-In III Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
The real story... if a belt system can take this type of abuse.... http://www.vettedogs.com/episode/vds_20071129 I think you'll be ok on the street.... or the drag strip.
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 5
From: Oldham County Louisville, KY
The real story... if a belt system can take this type of abuse.... http://www.vettedogs.com/episode/vds_20071129 I think you'll be ok on the street.... or the drag strip.
Former Vendor
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,327
Likes: 7
From: Oxnard SoCal www.aacorvette.com www.superchargersuperstore.com
If the supercharger is self contained you have to change the oil in it. The new V-3 Vortech blowers need to be changed once at 2500 miles and then every 7500 miles after that.
Former Vendor
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 7,607
Likes: 1
From: ECS Sales & Service Advisor
Cruise-In III Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
Our C5 kit (as far as belt orientation) has stayed the same for years. Dougs car in the video above, as well as 4DRush's supercharged C5 - which currently holds the record for the quickest SC'd C5, run the same belt configuration as our base C5 kit's - they are however 8rib set ups. But if they both hold at these "extreme" levels, street driving set ups, when set up properly set up shouldnt have issues.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,836
Likes: 8
From: Still the Fastest (still running) Stock Bottom End Blown LS1/ 2010 ECS CC 10.50 CHAMP Hamilton, NJ
No issues here. Only changed the belt cause the cam was going in. Kept it as a spare after a few hundred passes! All depends on sets it up...
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,939
Likes: 7
From: Simpsonville SC
St. Jude Donor '09-'10
I have the ProCharger P1SC1 Stage II system, and my ProCharger tensioner pulley squeaks all the time. I've replaced it once already, and the second one is now squealing.
I installed my system lasy July.
I installed my system lasy July.
Former Vendor
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,327
Likes: 7
From: Oxnard SoCal www.aacorvette.com www.superchargersuperstore.com
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,191
Likes: 43
From: Scottsdale Az
ECS built forged 346, Paxton Novi2000 @12lbs, ECS blower cam, fuel system, meth kit. And a 6-rib kit.
My issues can be solved with an 8-rib or flip drive, but counting parts, labor, and retune(if I add boost) thats creeping on 2 grand. It's an issue that could/should be avoided during the initial build with one of the above options.
My issues can be solved with an 8-rib or flip drive, but counting parts, labor, and retune(if I add boost) thats creeping on 2 grand. It's an issue that could/should be avoided during the initial build with one of the above options.
The problem I ran into with the 8 rib was lack of crank pulley wrap. With the 402 the torque could spin the crank on the belt, especially when the load on the belt was super high like in upper RPMs.
My suggestion is to go to the flip drive right off the bat now. Then if needed you can upgrade the blower pulley and crank pulley to 8-rib later.