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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 01:34 AM
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Hello everyone,

Have looked at c5 fi section almost daily for the last couple of months. Lots of info to take in for a relatively new vette owner. I bought an 03 z06 in Oct, and installed 1 7/8 headers, xpipe, exhaust, and intake and i'm looking for a little more power (yep, im addicted and what its got now is starting to wear off!!!).
So- NOT to start a debate- I do love the roots/twin blowers and the sweet sound, but the cost/look of the hood are turning me off IMO. I'm not looking for HP numbers and the maggie with caravaggio hood combo was considered.
I've decided to go with a centri based unit. Novi2000, A&A, or procharger. I don't really want to drill the pan, but the A&A price is SOOO nice compared to the others.
What option would be best IF I wanted to get the best low end torque? I was looking at the t-trim package at A&A as I understand it doesn't requre drilling the oil pan. Basically my vette is a weekend machine, no track use. I would want something strongest in the 3500-4000 rpm range in second or third gear....street use only.

I'm still going to call A&A, but would love to hear some responses from blownblue, arun, and some of the other members who frequent this section.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 02:47 AM
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Motor City Molds is currently working on a Kenne Bell S/C hood.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 03:44 AM
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Restrictor plate should help you get more power in the low to mid-end. Been running a centri for 2 1/2 years and love it. You'll get bored with stock boost soon enough!
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by matt75
Hello everyone,

Have looked at c5 fi section almost daily for the last couple of months. Lots of info to take in for a relatively new vette owner. I bought an 03 z06 in Oct, and installed 1 7/8 headers, xpipe, exhaust, and intake and i'm looking for a little more power (yep, im addicted and what its got now is starting to wear off!!!).
So- NOT to start a debate- I do love the roots/twin blowers and the sweet sound, but the cost/look of the hood are turning me off IMO. I'm not looking for HP numbers and the maggie with caravaggio hood combo was considered.
I've decided to go with a centri based unit. Novi2000, A&A, or procharger. I don't really want to drill the pan, but the A&A price is SOOO nice compared to the others.
What option would be best IF I wanted to get the best low end torque? I was looking at the t-trim package at A&A as I understand it doesn't requre drilling the oil pan. Basically my vette is a weekend machine, no track use. I would want something strongest in the 3500-4000 rpm range in second or third gear....street use only.

I'm still going to call A&A, but would love to hear some responses from blownblue, arun, and some of the other members who frequent this section.

That's easy, Maggie's make alot of power at 3500rpms (maggie 740rwt vs 500rwt centri) and are alot of fun on the street. Now at the track and 6000rpms thats another story, Centri base rule!!!
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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i like procharger due to the non tapping of the oil pan. I have about the same mods on my car with addition of meth, cam and procharger and i make 650wrhp and 585 rwtq 9lbs with restrictor plate. to give you an idea. but A&A's prices are very hard to beat.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by matt75
Hello everyone,

Have looked at c5 fi section almost daily for the last couple of months. Lots of info to take in for a relatively new vette owner. I bought an 03 z06 in Oct, and installed 1 7/8 headers, xpipe, exhaust, and intake and i'm looking for a little more power (yep, im addicted and what its got now is starting to wear off!!!).
So- NOT to start a debate- I do love the roots/twin blowers and the sweet sound, but the cost/look of the hood are turning me off IMO. I'm not looking for HP numbers and the maggie with caravaggio hood combo was considered.
I've decided to go with a centri based unit. Novi2000, A&A, or procharger. I don't really want to drill the pan, but the A&A price is SOOO nice compared to the others.
What option would be best IF I wanted to get the best low end torque? I was looking at the t-trim package at A&A as I understand it doesn't requre drilling the oil pan. Basically my vette is a weekend machine, no track use. I would want something strongest in the 3500-4000 rpm range in second or third gear....street use only.

I'm still going to call A&A, but would love to hear some responses from blownblue, arun, and some of the other members who frequent this section.
Hey Matt,
You can get the Si and the T-trim internally lubricated (no drilling the oil pan.) There may be more internally lubed blowers, not sure.
Call Andy @ A&A to confirm.
You only need the Si unless you plan on continual upgrades (like me and many others )
Good Luck!
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Call ECS and speak to Chis or Doug, and Call A&A, speak with Andy, and make your decisions from that. They are both amazing systems.
I'm a little bias! Go with ECS!

Either Way, Do it right the first time...
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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If you have been following these boards like you say, I'm sure you have noticed that the ECS Paxton cars are far more proven then the other kits available, with a much larger return on your investment.

Dollar per HP-TQ/results, we are the least expensive kit on the market, with the most expandability, without future expense period! Purchasing a cheap kit, is just purchasing a cheap kit, look at what your buying closely!


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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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ECS and A&A make great kits. I wouldn't buy a centrifugal SC kit from anyone else. Just make sure your head unit is big enough for what your end goal MIGHT be. If you have ideas of putting a stroker LS1-3 in the car in the future take that into account now. T Trim for A&A or the NOVI 2000 for ECS should make you happy. If you intend to stay stock displacement the Si should be more than enough.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Here's another happy ECS customer.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike04
ECS and A&A make great kits. I wouldn't buy a centrifugal SC kit from anyone else. Just make sure your head unit is big enough for what your end goal MIGHT be. If you have ideas of putting a stroker LS1-3 in the car in the future take that into account now. T Trim for A&A or the NOVI 2000 for ECS should make you happy. If you intend to stay stock displacement the Si should be more than enough.
I could not have said it any better, both shops are awesome and there kits are the best on the market. You here more about the ECS boys at the track they like to run the 1/4 on the East Coast, do not here as much chatter on the boards from the West Coast and A&A boys. I see a YSi in my future, not that I do not like my A&A DS1C setup, when I need a new motor, I will be doing a LS3 and need the biggest head unit under my hood with the A&A latest bracket
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...r-cheaper.html


Here is your opportunity
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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You live in Texas so You probably should think about heat and cooling. Both the ECS and the A&A kits have a front mounted intercooler. The A&A kit has a new intercooler that doesn't interfere with cooling and from what I have read on this forum works well in hot climates. The ECS kit may require you to do the license plate mod to get adequate cooling (remove the front license plate and cut a hole in the front fascia.

You have to decide if you want to cut up your vette. If you plan on returning your vette to stock before selling it this may be important to you (many buyers will not buy a used vette if it has been cut up). Both the A&A and ECS kit will require that you remove some of your inner fender for the piping. In addition, with the ECS kit you will have to trim some of the front cross member behind the radiator for pipe clearance. As mentioned above, with the ECS kit you may also have to do the license plate mod for adequate cooling.

The procharger kit doesn't require any modification to the car other than drilling a few small holes in the inner fender. I easily got around this so when I remove my kit I can return the car to unmodified stock. Also, I don't have cooling issues because the intercoolers aren't mounted in front of the radiator.
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ECS and A&A both make great kits. I haven't had any problems with my ECS kit going on two years. You can't go wrong with either vendor.

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Originally Posted by matt75
Hello everyone,

Have looked at c5 fi section almost daily for the last couple of months. Lots of info to take in for a relatively new vette owner. I bought an 03 z06 in Oct, and installed 1 7/8 headers, xpipe, exhaust, and intake and i'm looking for a little more power (yep, im addicted and what its got now is starting to wear off!!!).
So- NOT to start a debate- I do love the roots/twin blowers and the sweet sound, but the cost/look of the hood are turning me off IMO. I'm not looking for HP numbers and the maggie with caravaggio hood combo was considered.
I've decided to go with a centri based unit. Novi2000, A&A, or procharger. I don't really want to drill the pan, but the A&A price is SOOO nice compared to the others.
What option would be best IF I wanted to get the best low end torque? I was looking at the t-trim package at A&A as I understand it doesn't requre drilling the oil pan. Basically my vette is a weekend machine, no track use. I would want something strongest in the 3500-4000 rpm range in second or third gear....street use only.

I'm still going to call A&A, but would love to hear some responses from blownblue, arun, and some of the other members who frequent this section.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Maybe this doesn't make any difference to you and by the sounds of all the satisfied centri sc owners I guess it doesn't make much difference to a lot of people. I'm definitely in the minority. I keep listening to sound clips on youtube of vortech, procharger and paxton novi kits and what gets to me is the sound they make at idle. The prochargers have the most aggressive sound if you ask me. I hear the gears and it kind of sounds like a rock tumbler. The Vortechs sound like they are whistling or like you have a tiny sewing machine under your hood. The paxtons sound like an old electric alarm clock I used to have - kind of an electronic clatter. Some of the vortechs are quieter but I still hear a subtle whistling even over the sound of the engine. These sounds are not pleasing to me.

When I talk to my tuner about it he says he likes the sound. It is the sound of power. I guess that's not the sound for me.

On the other hand, maggies do not make this type of sound at all during idle but make a sweet whine under acceleration.

These could be considerations to you. Possibly not as most don't share my point of view but in case you hadn't thought about it, I bring it up. I want to like the centri blowers because of the amount of power potential they have and not having to get a different hood but then you have the cutting of inner fender linings and support arms with their installation. Nothing is perfect.
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