Maggie on Meth:
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Maggie on Meth:
Just installed the ECS kit on my car and was curious what maggie users have their settings on. I currently have mine set on the initial settings until I have it properly tuned but am curious what other have set on their units based on expierence/trial and error. FYI mine is a non IC maggie..MJP
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My primary reason for going to this setup is that it seemed the right/safe thing to do as my unit was not an IC unit. I was happy with the output but wanted to add a little more power and added a 3.2 pulley; I was running a 3.3 which is how I got it from LPE. With the addition of the smaller pulley and a few more pounds of boost, meth seemed like the best insurance against detonation and possibly worse. The unit I purchased is the ECS unit, very good unit and pretty easy install…my car had immediate results and I was staying out of the boost until I get it dyno tuned.
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Just installed the ECS kit on my car and was curious what maggie users have their settings on. I currently have mine set on the initial settings until I have it properly tuned but am curious what other have set on their units based on expierence/trial and error. FYI mine is a non IC maggie..MJP
The Maggie has Teflon Coated rotors. The Meth will strip off the coating.
I would not put Meth/Water though a Maggie.
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I know funcool runs meth and has been doing so for about 5 years with his maggie and no issues that I am aware of but I have heard of another getting the rotors recoated as well. Curious is anyone knows the lifespan of the teflon coatings under meth injection. Sorry to highjack but getting close to having a maggie installed and curious about all this stuff myself.
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or not. There are trade offs in everything. Maybe I am wrong but I think the extra margin in safety the meth provides is the lower risk without even considering the extra power that can be tunned out of the car.
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I've heard those reports before and don't know if it is or not. There are trade offs in everything. Maybe I am wrong but I think the extra margin in safety the meth provides is the lower risk without even considering the extra power that can be tunned out of the car.
or not. There are trade offs in everything. Maybe I am wrong but I think the extra margin in safety the meth provides is the lower risk without even considering the extra power that can be tunned out of the car.I run 6 psi in the Vegas heat. I also run 10.9:1 compression heads and a cam with LTs.
For safety we tuned to max the backed off a little.
Blower has been on for 2 years and I'll I have changed is the engine oil and filter every 3K
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Just installed the ECS kit on my car and was curious what maggie users have their settings on. I currently have mine set on the initial settings until I have it properly tuned but am curious what other have set on their units based on expierence/trial and error. FYI mine is a non IC maggie..MJP
You basically have the tuner look for knock activity. If you get any knock in boost, increase the blue gain **** to stop it.
Most Maggies are tuned at 14-16 degree's timing at WOT. Some tuners with methanol will bump that to 18-20 degree's and target 11.0:1 AFR.. using meth to stop the detonation. Run it a little fatter(11.0:1), the meth will provide octane and drop inlet temp on the blower which should cool it down a little as well.
Good place to start, make sure the kit activates when you get into boost.. like 2 PSI, and put the blue gain **** on 6.. purge the kit usingthe test button while the engine is running.. tune away
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I find it hard to believe that meth wont remove the coating, but water and detergent will........water?? is this true,,,I was told to run the "good" washer fluid and tuned for it. Was less corrisive than meth and cheaper and easier to get. works great. i dont spray a lot,,,,
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And this is why kenne bell is king! Only 16 degrees with no meth? Thats horrible.....
I as well have heard that the coating on the maggies is not meth friendly, perhaps one of our maggie vendors can answer this.
On the other hand, i know for a fact that the coating on the kenne bells is 100% methanol safe and this has been verified by not only Jeff at TPE but others at Kenne Bell. We have been running it with no problems at all.
I as well have heard that the coating on the maggies is not meth friendly, perhaps one of our maggie vendors can answer this.
On the other hand, i know for a fact that the coating on the kenne bells is 100% methanol safe and this has been verified by not only Jeff at TPE but others at Kenne Bell. We have been running it with no problems at all.
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Just installed the ECS kit on my car and was curious what maggie users have their settings on. I currently have mine set on the initial settings until I have it properly tuned but am curious what other have set on their units based on expierence/trial and error. FYI mine is a non IC maggie..MJP
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Might put some DRs on and go to Cali for at at sea level track and try for a 10.xxx with my Maggie A4 with 3.42s
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You should run 10's easy with good tires, good luck!!!
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I find it hard to believe that meth wont remove the coating, but water and detergent will........water?? is this true,,,I was told to run the "good" washer fluid and tuned for it. Was less corrisive than meth and cheaper and easier to get. works great. i dont spray a lot,,,,
