Procharger help!
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Racer
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Procharger help!
Hello,
I've recently purchased a Procharger V1 Kit and installed it on my 2000 C5 Corvette, my car is absolutely stock, so of course high compression pistons. Took it to a few tuning workshops and all I get is that the Procharger with stock boost would at least smash up my block because there are no modifications on the block. So, I've got a few advices from different tuning garages and few of them are either changing the whole block to forged pistons, connector rods, crankshaft, etc. from Ross, Crower, etc. or to give the pistons as much rich petrol as it can for example upgrading the fuel pump, injectors, installing a regulator, etc. in order to stop the pistons from actually breaking. The third advice I got is to install a bigger size Pulley and belt in order to reduce the boost produced on a pull. I'm quite new to Prochargers so your help would be appreciated and any questions are welcome.
Thank you in advance for reading,
Lingenfelter200.
I've recently purchased a Procharger V1 Kit and installed it on my 2000 C5 Corvette, my car is absolutely stock, so of course high compression pistons. Took it to a few tuning workshops and all I get is that the Procharger with stock boost would at least smash up my block because there are no modifications on the block. So, I've got a few advices from different tuning garages and few of them are either changing the whole block to forged pistons, connector rods, crankshaft, etc. from Ross, Crower, etc. or to give the pistons as much rich petrol as it can for example upgrading the fuel pump, injectors, installing a regulator, etc. in order to stop the pistons from actually breaking. The third advice I got is to install a bigger size Pulley and belt in order to reduce the boost produced on a pull. I'm quite new to Prochargers so your help would be appreciated and any questions are welcome.
Thank you in advance for reading,
Lingenfelter200.
Burning Brakes
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What pulley size do you have?? It must be small so they are concerned about the potential boost that you will get. I have a Stage II kit with 4.38" pulley and am generating 7.5 psi boost. If you stay under 8-9 psi you should be fine. You can go with a smaller pulley (larger boost) but will need a meth kit.
You DON'T need a rebuilt engine. Mine is completely stock. I suggest that you find a shop that specializes in LS engines with superchargers.
You DON'T need a rebuilt engine. Mine is completely stock. I suggest that you find a shop that specializes in LS engines with superchargers.
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Racer
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Thanks for the fast reply!
Brandon .. I have no idea about an Alky Control Kit.. may you explain please?
01vetter I'm not quite sure but this Pulley generates around 9psi currently. So, the smaller the pulley is the more boost generated and the larger the pulley is the less boost generated right? so if I buy a larger pulley and install it then see how much PSI it goes.. and goes up to 7PSI then no need to change anything in the engine at all?
Brandon .. I have no idea about an Alky Control Kit.. may you explain please?
01vetter I'm not quite sure but this Pulley generates around 9psi currently. So, the smaller the pulley is the more boost generated and the larger the pulley is the less boost generated right? so if I buy a larger pulley and install it then see how much PSI it goes.. and goes up to 7PSI then no need to change anything in the engine at all?
Le Mans Master
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They make complete kits ready to install.Here is a link http://www.alkycontrol.com/
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How much boost will the kit make? A stock LS1 (in good condition of corse) should be able to manage ~8psi safely. You could install a BOV that will limit the boost to a safe level. Running extra fuel through the injectors will keep the pistons cooler and will help avoid detonation. A rich fuel mixture is common on nitrous cars but this isn't an ideal solution for a daily driven supercharger car because it robs power, uses more fuel, fouls spark plugs and can clog the cats. A good intercooler will help prevent detonation without the other negative effects. Rebulding the block with forged components will allow you to run much more boost and thus allow you to make more hp but will cost lots of money. Lowering the engines static compression will allow you to run more boost without breaking the bank. You can do this by getting a set of heads with a bigger combustion chambers or modify the stockers. You can also get a thicker set of head gaskets.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
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Racer
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Brandon thanks for the suggestion but I think I'll go with what 01vetter says.
Sharkbiteattack I think I'll go for what 01vetter says, the kit makes about ~9-10psi right now, it's the biggest procharger available.. about 88mm I think. What I'll do is wait for what 01vetter says about pulley sizes and yes I have an HKS SSQV BOV installed into the pipe between the intake and the intercooler and still gives me about 10 psi per pull and we only pulled it once to avoid any block problems and since the car's ECU still not programmed yet.
Mainly because I'm looking for anything just to at least drive the car once. Yet, I paid loads and hell loads of money just to make the Supercharger fit properly and everything fitted properly. I'll wait for 01vetter to give me a reply and we'll see.
Sharkbiteattack I think I'll go for what 01vetter says, the kit makes about ~9-10psi right now, it's the biggest procharger available.. about 88mm I think. What I'll do is wait for what 01vetter says about pulley sizes and yes I have an HKS SSQV BOV installed into the pipe between the intake and the intercooler and still gives me about 10 psi per pull and we only pulled it once to avoid any block problems and since the car's ECU still not programmed yet.
Mainly because I'm looking for anything just to at least drive the car once. Yet, I paid loads and hell loads of money just to make the Supercharger fit properly and everything fitted properly. I'll wait for 01vetter to give me a reply and we'll see.
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How much boost will the kit make? A stock LS1 (in good condition of corse) should be able to manage ~8psi safely. You could install a BOV that will limit the boost to a safe level. Running extra fuel through the injectors will keep the pistons cooler and will help avoid detonation. A rich fuel mixture is common on nitrous cars but this isn't an ideal solution for a daily driven supercharger car because it robs power, uses more fuel, fouls spark plugs and can clog the cats. A good intercooler will help prevent detonation without the other negative effects. Rebulding the block with forged components will allow you to run much more boost and thus allow you to make more hp but will cost lots of money. Lowering the engines static compression will allow you to run more boost without breaking the bank. You can do this by getting a set of heads with a bigger combustion chambers or modify the stockers. You can also get a thicker set of head gaskets.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
Brian
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We base ProCharger system is designed to be used on a stock Corvette. We have sold and installed these systems on many of our customers Corvettes, and thee systems work as promised. Here are several examples.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/hotCars.php?car=67
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/hotCars.php?car=72
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/hotCars.php?car=41
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Brandon thanks for the suggestion but I think I'll go with what 01vetter says.
I have an HKS SSQV BOV installed into the pipe between the intake and the intercooler and still gives me about 10 psi per pull and we only pulled it once to avoid any block problems and since the car's ECU still not programmed yet.
Mainly because I'm looking for anything just to at least drive the car once. Yet, I paid loads and hell loads of money just to make the Supercharger fit properly and everything fitted properly. I'll wait for 01vetter to give me a reply and we'll see.
I have an HKS SSQV BOV installed into the pipe between the intake and the intercooler and still gives me about 10 psi per pull and we only pulled it once to avoid any block problems and since the car's ECU still not programmed yet.
Mainly because I'm looking for anything just to at least drive the car once. Yet, I paid loads and hell loads of money just to make the Supercharger fit properly and everything fitted properly. I'll wait for 01vetter to give me a reply and we'll see.
Tune the car conservatively first by setting it up rich and low on ignition timing, then add boost and then make the tune more aggressive if you choose, but stay out of boost on that stock tune unless you don't mind spending a bunch of money and letting the car sit while it gets fixed. I am guessing it is not so easy or cheap to get parts and work done over there.
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Racer
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Thanks for the replies. Yeah, We're gonna get a bigger pulley and try it out and the problem when we pulled it for the first time there were like fuel cuts and the problem was because the temperature sensor that goes between the intake and the intercooler pipe wasnt installed.. we'll install it, try a bigger pulley and I'll give you the news.
Melting Slicks
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I ran 10 psi on stock everything and no meth with 570 or so to the wheels with no problems... Tuning is the key and the tune need to be on.. Everything would be find if you stay around 550... or atleast thats the number everyone agrees with... Me.. i'm fixing to push it to 650 with no meth and see how long it last... then I'll build a motor...
