How come we never see any C5's in the upper rwhp range? Here's my situation. I'm looking at buying back my old 99FRC FI car and would love to set it up for the One mile events w/a big TT setup and LSX 6 bolt motor. I can't help but remember the driveline nightmares I had with the car several years ago when it was only making 800rwhp. But from what I remember the aerodynamics on the C5's were excellent, and w/a 28" tall tire and a 3.15 gear in a 6speed, the car would be a great contender. Especially since the 6bolt blocks came out(unavailable back in the day). Am I just dreaming or wasting my time considering doing this? The other pros in favor are the mini tub situation allowing for a nice wide 345 tire and then ECS's powerglide setup is a direct bolt in for the months during the summer to take the car drag racing. So I could go back and forth between powerglide and T56 to add enjoyment. Your thoughts? (Experience preferred of course)

Was gonna do it w/the viper, but I'd rather not have that much money tied up into a "dedicated" type race car...Would rather enjoy the viper w/ac and daily drivability.

Thanks guys!

 

I think that some of the cars on here are capable, but aren't turned up. Mainly, because there is no real reason to do so.

If guys are running 8's right now with way less, AND their already having severe traction issues, they will just end up going slower with more power.

 

Currently, we have a 443LSx, 4L80E, ZR1 rear, Driveshaft shop axles, carbon fiber prop shaft, 28x14.50 tires, transbrake, quad pump fuel system, KB 3.6L blower, and everything else you can throw at it, in a 2000 C5.
Our concern isn't power, its how are we gonna launch it without blowing the tires off.

 

I'm working on it Andy. Waiting on my glide and the turbonium's are in the mail. We'll see what 20psi nets my heap eventually. Then maybe a little more for the hell of it.

I know that black 99 is your baby but I think you'd be better served getting another one closer to stock unless there are a lot of parts that you plan to re-use.

 

there are a couple of vendors here Dallas Performance and LG have come up with boost by gear. I think that would be very helpful in your quest. As for power I think your heading the right way with turbos for power or a centri but it would have to be a big one.

 

...ams 1000.

 

That will be the boost controller I buy.

 

The AMS 1000 and eBoost2 currently have the boost by gear features for the turbo guys. Dallas Performance did their boost by gear to cater to the Centri guys

 

You can use the AMS1000 on blowers too. It's a pretty sweet unit.

From their website:


The AMS-1000 multi-channel Air Management System represents the latest in digital boost control technology. A Motorola 50-Mhz 16-bit processor is used to provide accurate and extremely fast control. A 128x64 pixel graphical LCD is used to provide a live display of data and inputs. GUI (Graphical User Interface) style operating system makes setup and programming more intuitive and user friendly.Data logging is integrated into the AMS-1000 and provides the user with instant feedback on the performance and real time operating parameters. The Data is presented as a Graph with a scrolling capability for detailed data information. If only the main boost channel is used for control of a waste gate the Aux channel MAP Sensor input then can be used to log actual manifold pressure. If both channels are used for control then the logged data will represent the real time pressure applied to each channel during operation.
Support for multiple types and pressure range MAP sensors have been provided so the system can be tailored to an individuals needs. Sensor inputs are continuously monitored and any error conditions are reported to the user.GM 3 bar0 to 30 psi range.
SSI 5 bar 0 to 60 psi range.
SSI 6.5 bar 0 to 99 psi range.

Multiple operating modes are available to the user: Time Based, Shift Based, and GPS (Gear Position Sensor):
Time Based One to six timed stages are available with this mode of operation. Each stage has an adjustable timer to control the duration. The Ramp Rate (rate at which the pressure is applied) is adjustable from 0 to 100 psi per second. A Ramp Rate setting of 0 does not disable the stage. The target psi will instantly rise at the end of any timed stage with a 0 Ramp Rate setting. The target psi can be increased or decreased over time to achieve the desired Boost Profile.Shift Based One to six stages are available and are controlled by a shift-input signal. The Ramp Rate for each stage is programmable as well as the Target psi for each stage (gear position). The Ramp Rate settings perform the same functions as in Time Based mode.
GPS Based One to six stages are available and are controlled by a 0-5 volt analog Input signal. This mode is for newer sport bikes or any vehicle that produces a different voltage for each gear position. A switch that produces a different voltage for each position can be used to select different boost profiles (up to six) on vehicles that do not use a Gear Position Sensor system. The Ramp Rate for each stage is programmable as well as the Target psi for each stage (gear position). The Ramp Rate settings perform the same functions as in Time Based Mode. Data logging is NOT available with this mode of operation.

The controller comes with everything you need to hook it up and start using it except for the external air source, if desired.

Read on!
Billet aluminum enclosure and all parts are specified over an extended temperature range.
Vibration and weather proof.
System software can be erased and reprogrammed by the factory for future software updates.
User settings will remain for up to 20 years with no power applied. No back up batteries are needed.
Factory default RESET available in the options menu to restore controller to state it was out of the box from the factory.
Launch mode programmable to range of selected MAP sensor.
Scramble boost to apply an amount of pressure that you program to the gate, thus increasing boost no matter where in the main program you are currently at. Think of it as an emergency boost button (kinda like a shot of nitrous) Remove the signal and it goes back to current target psi. Can be used as a single stage of boost.
Reduce boost which works the opposite of scramble. It will remove a programmed amount from the current target psi. If you spin stab a button and it will reduce power instantly.
Delay timer for Activation in Shift Based Mode and First stage of Time based mode may be used as a delay timer.
Multiple operating modes:

Time Based (up to 6 stages) programmable to ONE one-hundredth of a second.
Shift Based (up to 6 stages) programmable to ONE one-hundredth of a second.
GPS (up to 6 gears), self learning, can be used on anything with a voltage output to indicate gear position -- programmable to ONE one-hundredth of a second.
Programmable Ramp Rate to control the rate at which the pressure is applied. 0 to 100 psi range.
Dual output channels available or the auxiliary channel may be used for live boost pressure data viewing and data logging. Basically there are 2 controllers in 1 box. You can control multiple waste gates , valves, blow offs on supercharged systems thus giving you boost control.
Integrated Dual channel data logger with 35 seconds of record for each channel. Graph view of logged data. Logged data will remain until it is erased by user.
Graph view of programmed settings.
Display backlight and contrast is user adjustable from the options menu.
Help screens and setup wizards to help with setup.
Most inputs can be configured for + 12volt or ground activation.
All inputs have input protection diodes. All outputs have integrated noise suppression devices to clamp fly back voltage from solenoids.
Outputs short circuit protected and over current protected( 7 amp Maximum)
Reverse battery protection.
** NOTE Target PSI is the amount applied to the waste-gate and is NOT the actual Manifold Boost Psi! **

 

i think you should do it! I like that car and wished you would have never sold it. It is a solid platform and would make a great build up.

good point by ysb.....maybe for the strip....more enjoyment and a$$ kickin'!!

 

The mile event only happens twice a year I believe. Compare that to drag strips that are open 3 days / week or road racing racing tracks that are open 7 days / week. Just not as much interest to build a car for it.

 

But you could also say that about the other platforms. You'd think the 1 mile event would be flooded w/vettes just because there's so many more of them...

 

I've held a one mile roll race event, and would like to do another some day. I've got my C5 setup for radical canyon runs, fun at the roadcourse, and geared to hit 6600 RPM in sixth just before the mile marker...


JB

 

With all these glides and high hp cars coming together next year, there's going to be a lot of fast cars around here...

 

I have a build which is almost finished (see my thread 434 LSX twin turbo) and I expect on high boost I will put down somewhere in the very high 1100's. It can be done and has been done at least by my builder on a C6 Z06. It's gonna get pricy though!

 

1300+ are out there, they just dont hang out here. Maybe yellowbullet? I saw one at Pinks this summer. A "C5" with huge motor like 600 cubes and nitrous, going 7's in the 1/4. It wasn't really a vette anymore, but a race car with a C5 looking body.

 

we are going to push our c6 to 1300+ its over 1K now. if your looking for a shop to do this for you let us know we can sure build it up for you and are not a far drive for you! we have a few customers from your area!

 

I have 752RWHP in mine and all I have to ask is....why?

Have you ever driven a car with this much HP? It's just so unneccesary it's not even funny.

I had an 1100GSX before this car.

There really is "too much HP"

When you can barely control a vehicle to keep it from kicking left on you at 100mph you'll see.

 

OP has had plenty of high HP cars.

Why do some of us want this much power? Because for some people "too much" is never enough. It comes down to some people want to and can.

 

Did you read his post? Or are you just jumping on the to much hp band wagon?
Oufan If you are going to the mile the only advatage a c5 would have over a viper is the .29 drag co for the coupe, you start with 500 cubes and 2 extra cylinders so each cylinder will take less of a beating. Wont have to mini tub either. Take a look what cars are consitently in the top ten.