how many are using a trans brace?
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Le Mans Master
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how many are using a trans brace?
When is this really needed? Is this needed on a steet car with street tires, or really only with hard launches (sticky tires, drag racing, etc.)?
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I have seen a handful of transmissions break on the street. Wheel hop being the biggest contributor. It really comes down to how hard do you drive the car, regardless of where it's done.
The problem with not going with one is if you break the diff and trans, it's most likely going to cost you over 3k to fix, where as a brace is under $400. The insurance is not worth the gamble if you "use" your car IMHO.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...rut_Brace.html
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The problem with not going with one is if you break the diff and trans, it's most likely going to cost you over 3k to fix, where as a brace is under $400. The insurance is not worth the gamble if you "use" your car IMHO.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...rut_Brace.html
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I have seen a handful of transmissions break on the street. Wheel hop being the biggest contributor. It really comes down to how hard do you drive the car, regardless of where it's done.
The problem with not going with one is if you break the diff and trans, it's most likely going to cost you over 3k to fix, where as a brace is under $400. The insurance is not worth the gamble if you "use" your car IMHO.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...rut_Brace.html
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The problem with not going with one is if you break the diff and trans, it's most likely going to cost you over 3k to fix, where as a brace is under $400. The insurance is not worth the gamble if you "use" your car IMHO.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...rut_Brace.html
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Just stupid not to have one on a stick car....
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They are a little tough to install, not terrible, but easier with a clutch install and the rear assembly is down already. They are about three hours +- when thats all your doing, less then an hour when the trans is down already.
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Call me stupid 
Don't let the wheels hop and don't dead hook and I don't think it's needed. I think there is also a misconception that the brace prevents the diff from blowing up. I believe it is actually meant to keep the transmission from twisting/breaking WHEN the diff blows. So, I guess it will save you money IF the diff blows. I prefer to drive smart so the diff never blows in the first place.
Don't let the wheels hop and don't dead hook and I don't think it's needed. I think there is also a misconception that the brace prevents the diff from blowing up. I believe it is actually meant to keep the transmission from twisting/breaking WHEN the diff blows. So, I guess it will save you money IF the diff blows. I prefer to drive smart so the diff never blows in the first place.
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I do agree with your main point. I don't expect the brace to make the diff bulletproof, especially in my case (weak '05 diff). But it should prevent this separation which should help a lot and at the very least it should save the output shaft of the tranny in the even the case fails.
Also realize that the diff brace isn't going to help much if you let wheel hop happen.
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I have no desire to break anything and have never pushed my car to that point. I do go to the track, but I am very cautious in my approach.
Interesting... you want to dead hook? The few times I go to the track, I spend a lot of time just talking to people, watching and learning. The consensus I hear is that the ideal launch is about 1 revolution of the tires before they hook. I'm always up for learning how other people do it though.
If you do plan on pushing it, then I agree it is a great product... especially for $400.
Interesting... you want to dead hook? The few times I go to the track, I spend a lot of time just talking to people, watching and learning. The consensus I hear is that the ideal launch is about 1 revolution of the tires before they hook. I'm always up for learning how other people do it though.
If you do plan on pushing it, then I agree it is a great product... especially for $400.
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St. Jude Donor '11
I guess it depends on your definition of dead hook and mine is probably inaccurate. My idea of a dead hook is a 1.6 60'. 
You definitely have more experience than me. I think if you plan to track the car at all though, then it's a great idea to have one.
You definitely have more experience than me. I think if you plan to track the car at all though, then it's a great idea to have one.
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Call me stupid
Don't let the wheels hop and don't dead hook and I don't think it's needed. I think there is also a misconception that the brace prevents the diff from blowing up. I believe it is actually meant to keep the transmission from twisting/breaking WHEN the diff blows. So, I guess it will save you money IF the diff blows. I prefer to drive smart so the diff never blows in the first place.
Don't let the wheels hop and don't dead hook and I don't think it's needed. I think there is also a misconception that the brace prevents the diff from blowing up. I believe it is actually meant to keep the transmission from twisting/breaking WHEN the diff blows. So, I guess it will save you money IF the diff blows. I prefer to drive smart so the diff never blows in the first place.
True, but some of us want to do the latter. Obviously you do too. The diff wants to twist off the tranny when power is applied. The top of the diff wants to separate from the tranny. The brace keeps this from happening.
I do agree with your main point. I don't expect the brace to make the diff bulletproof, especially in my case (weak '05 diff). But it should prevent this separation which should help a lot and at the very least it should save the output shaft of the tranny in the even the case fails.
Also realize that the diff brace isn't going to help much if you let wheel hop happen.
I do agree with your main point. I don't expect the brace to make the diff bulletproof, especially in my case (weak '05 diff). But it should prevent this separation which should help a lot and at the very least it should save the output shaft of the tranny in the even the case fails.
Also realize that the diff brace isn't going to help much if you let wheel hop happen.
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Don't let Dave fool you guys... 
He's not what I would call easy on it
His 9-second pass goes something like this... 5,000 RPMs, drop clutch in about 0.1 second and shift each gear at like 6,995 RPMs with a 7K limit.
He's not what I would call easy on it
His 9-second pass goes something like this... 5,000 RPMs, drop clutch in about 0.1 second and shift each gear at like 6,995 RPMs with a 7K limit.
