YSI or TTix
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From: cookeville tennessee
With you for sure z06wanted just pulled a ttix off of his car last year and now running the YSI. Shane is a great guy and will tell you anything you would like. Again both of these kits are great and the top of there line in both as far as a kit that come complete. The only other thing to look at is the F1R or the F2R....
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Racer
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From: College Park Maryland
that's right !! .. I wish if I went thru with this its worth it 
You said it all - "I went with the cheaper method" Have twin turbos on both my 03's with the proper set-up there is no wait (lag) the turbo is much more efficient both in producing power/torque and much easier on the engine. While a sales pitch go to the STS site and review the differences they advertise. Good luck with whatever you decide.
They don't quite hsve that right. A turbo causes significant back pressure, and that's how the parasitic load of driving the compressor takes a toll on the power output. Either way, the compressor isn't driven for free.
I know, there's plenty in print saying otherwise. It's a popular wives tale that's been regurgitated for at least thirty years.
I know, there's plenty in print saying otherwise. It's a popular wives tale that's been regurgitated for at least thirty years.
The print and wives tale just happen to be backed up by all kinds of technical information and studies. Being kind it takes less than 5 HP to drive a turbo and a supercharger takes well over 100 HP and can easily approach 150 HP. Per dollar spent the turbo will provide more HP.
In any case do your homework and whichever way you go will be the right way for you
In any case do your homework and whichever way you go will be the right way for you
.. but need to think it out with people who tried both worldsTurbos, because you can adjust boost without changing a pulley or using a restrictor plate. You can run low boost on the street and dial it up at the track and/or dyno. Also, the turbo setup will not have any belt alignment or slipping issues (not that its a big issue but it will require additional parts to get it 100% right imo).
I went with a sc setup though because its less expensive (initially) and its slightly easier to install but if I could start over I would go with a turbo setup. Its not a significant difference in price after you add in the cost of headers, flip drive/direct drive, 8 or 10 rib setup, balancer, tensioners, etc.
Carl
I went with a sc setup though because its less expensive (initially) and its slightly easier to install but if I could start over I would go with a turbo setup. Its not a significant difference in price after you add in the cost of headers, flip drive/direct drive, 8 or 10 rib setup, balancer, tensioners, etc.
Carl
very true!!I don't think thats an option .. once I'm done with the car I'm shipping it overseas
but I seriously need to get in touch with Mr. Z06wanted!!
A common thing for people miss is that while it may take a calculated or measured 50 horsepower to mechanically drive a supercharger at a certain uttput, part of this is recovered when the piston encounters less resistance on the intake stroke, or is even pushed down. So 50 hp to drive the blower isn't really a 50 hp parasitic loss. Of course, the same type of recovery also happens with a turbo.
need to talk to him !!
where can I get a hold of him ??!! With you for sure z06wanted just pulled a ttix off of his car last year and now running the YSI. Shane is a great guy and will tell you anything you would like. Again both of these kits are great and the top of there line in both as far as a kit that come complete goes to me. The only other thing to look at is the F1R or the F2R....Thank you all guys
Really appreciate your help
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thanks
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Turbo fans !!!
I wanted your thoughts on this
Would you prefer using a "Garrat turbo" unit instead of a "Turbonotics Turbo" unit?
The Garrats are top in the industry .. not saying that Turbonotics aren't
but I was just wondering
-Moe
I wanted your thoughts on this
Would you prefer using a "Garrat turbo" unit instead of a "Turbonotics Turbo" unit?
The Garrats are top in the industry .. not saying that Turbonotics aren't
but I was just wondering
-Moe
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Burning Brakes
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Idk I totally see both sides here. Even though I personally just love big blower set ups I see the pros and cons of each.. my father has both a 408 f1r set up in a 99 frc and a 427 c5r tt set up in an 01 z06. Both cars are the best of the best with no expense spared. The tt is much quieter and seems less radical, its also much more controlable on the street which is a good thing for the normal person. Personally 100% I love the f1r set up even though its basically unconteolable theirs no feeling like the car skating under you at 100 + the sound is Jus unreal... Get which 1 makes you happy and think if you want quieter and kinda sleeper or a more harsh animal lol
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From: College Park Maryland
Idk I totally see both sides here. Even though I personally just love big blower set ups I see the pros and cons of each.. my father has both a 408 f1r set up in a 99 frc and a 427 c5r tt set up in an 01 z06. Both cars are the best of the best with no expense spared. The tt is much quieter and seems less radical, its also much more controlable on the street which is a good thing for the normal person. Personally 100% I love the f1r set up even though its basically unconteolable theirs no feeling like the car skating under you at 100 + the sound is Jus unreal... Get which 1 makes you happy and think if you want quieter and kinda sleeper or a more harsh animal lol
Thanks man .. my final is a TTix precision kit And hoping for the best
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From: waldorf md
i jus removed my a&a kit from my c5z and that made great power and was fun,got tired of bel issues tho,swapped to a ttix kit ... bit harder to work on but i love it.i just had it down in oc on open downpipes since my exhaust hadnt come in....#1 question was where are the turbos since they could hear them but couldnt see them (with the hood open of course) i deff love the sleeper approach,power is great and no belt issues that could strand me roadside.
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From: Hazard/Pikeville KY
A few yrs back I ran the A&A setup with all the boltons and loved it. Later the same year I gave Nick a call over at Turbo Tech and purchased one of the X-kits and haven't looked back. The TTix kit will put endless smiles on your face untill u break something. 
Burning Brakes
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From: Moore OK
I love my YSi and I love centri's in general, but my next move is going to be into a custom TT kit. I was going to go straight to a F1X and will probaly change my mind 3 more times, but right now I'm planning on building my own TT kit this winter.
Drifting
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From: Brighton, MI
also some shops say the turbos are easier on the motor cause their driven by exhaust so no extra load on the rotating assembly to drive it and theirs also no hp robbing again cause their exhaust driven . . .either 1 i think will get you to 1000rwhp and detenation or driver error can terminate a motor real fast with either set up
Exhaust gases do NOT miraculously exit from the engine, they are pushed DIRECTLY by the pistons. You might not have direct load from the front of the crank like the charger, but you are still pushing using power to create power with the turbos.
Nothing like a free lunch.
But its simple... get a turbo car and remove the pressure side tubes and see how much power it makes vs a naturally aspirated similar engine... You will see that it will take out about 80-100hp just like the charger. If you can hook, you can take advantage of lower rpm boost with properly selected turbines.
The main advantage of the turbos is that you get more boost at lower rpms than a centrifugal. If you want a centri to produce boost at low rpms you need to overspin it with a restrictor in place but it will be "less" efficient in that it will draw more from the engine to make the same boost/power. Still... the goals are there and you can achieve whatever you want.
I am in this dilemma also. I have a YSi Camaro and I want a TT corvette.
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What I feel is that the charger will pull a bit faster up top.
I did 2 cobalts
one LNF with 301whp
the other was the older one... had 299hp
There was a 100HP difference at about 3000rpms between both turbo over the charger... guess who won?
Race went like this: Turbo car pulled a car easy on the roll.... the charger car slowly but surely came by.
Anyways... I like the TTiX stuff, but no one can't deny the power of the YSi.
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Not saying there will be lack of power anywhere. We did 821 with a ysi on a customer of mine. But if you compare the graphs on a TT 800hp car vs a Ysi you will see the TT will have more torque lower.
What I feel is that the charger will pull a bit faster up top.
I did 2 cobalts
one LNF with 301whp
the other was the older one... had 299hp
There was a 100HP difference at about 3000rpms between both turbo over the charger... guess who won?
Race went like this: Turbo car pulled a car easy on the roll.... the charger car slowly but surely came by.
Anyways... I like the TTiX stuff, but no one can't deny the power of the YSi.
What I feel is that the charger will pull a bit faster up top.
I did 2 cobalts
one LNF with 301whp
the other was the older one... had 299hp
There was a 100HP difference at about 3000rpms between both turbo over the charger... guess who won?
Race went like this: Turbo car pulled a car easy on the roll.... the charger car slowly but surely came by.
Anyways... I like the TTiX stuff, but no one can't deny the power of the YSi.
I mean how bad can a blower kit be? Shane (Z06wanted) yanked his TTiX kit, slapped on a YSi and ran 9.0's first day out.
