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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 06:07 AM
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Do any of you guys know of a way to guaruntee Puddling won't happen in the intake and blow my engine to shreds? I have been going between a TT, Centri, Nitrous setup and since I already have a full wet kit, I would more like to go nitrous. Here's the catch - it IS my daily driver, and I would like a fully reliable car, of which I want minimal issues. Yes, I know - it's assbackwards, I want power and reliability. I'd be running a 125 wet shot btw. So all in all, the question about puddling and can nitrous REALLY be ran without issue?
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Originally Posted by FuglyHippo
Do any of you guys know of a way to guaruntee Puddling won't happen in the intake and blow my engine to shreds? I have been going between a TT, Centri, Nitrous setup and since I already have a full wet kit, I would more like to go nitrous. Here's the catch - it IS my daily driver, and I would like a fully reliable car, of which I want minimal issues. Yes, I know - it's assbackwards, I want power and reliability. I'd be running a 125 wet shot btw. So all in all, the question about puddling and can nitrous REALLY be ran without issue?
Don't spray below 3000RPM. Get a window switch. There are no guarantees with any power adder. Go to LS1tech.com and hit the nitrous section. Read the stickies at the top of that section and search the nitrous forum for answers.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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puddling happens when you spray nitrous and are at too low of RPM. a 150 sot and spray above 3000 and yo should be ok.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FuglyHippo
Do any of you guys know of a way to guaruntee Puddling won't happen in the intake and blow my engine to shreds? I have been going between a TT, Centri, Nitrous setup and since I already have a full wet kit, I would more like to go nitrous. Here's the catch - it IS my daily driver, and I would like a fully reliable car, of which I want minimal issues. Yes, I know - it's assbackwards, I want power and reliability. I'd be running a 125 wet shot btw. So all in all, the question about puddling and can nitrous REALLY be ran without issue?
Nitrous puddling only happens when one of two things occur. The car is launched at a low rpm and a bog takes place at the line...engine then has a lack of fuel and excessive amount of nitrous in the intake. The second means of puddling would be due to a faulty system normally resulting from improper installation or poor maintenance.

Nitrous is safe when all of the proper precautions are followed. Reference the LSITECH nitrous section for good sound advice when running nitrous. There are some really good vendors on that section that will gladly help you run (setup) a kick *** safe nitrous system.

When it comes to power adders nitrous is the fastest setup for street cars when comparing apples to apples...meaning that a 600 hp nitrous car will out perform a supercharged car of equal power. Maggies make great torque but are turds in the 1320' and 600 rwhp is beyond their reach....centrifugal superchargers make great power (big numbers) but can't match the torque down low or maintain top end (trap speed) of a nitrous car when comparing comparable power numbers.

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Thanks guys! The bogging theory kinda scares me a bit. But I'll head on over to LS1Tech!

Thanks again,
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Four things are a must with N2O.

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FuglyHippo
Thanks guys! The bogging theory kinda scares me a bit. But I'll head on over to LS1Tech!

Thanks again,
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The bogging issue is not a theory,but rather a fact. As previously stated by others have your nitrous set to activate at a minimum of 3000 rpm,this will eliminate the possibility of puddling due to a bog at the line. Have your nitrous setup properly and you'll have safe additional power at the touch of the activation switch...now go have some fun on spray!!
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Spray is a lot of fun I just got tired of the bottle refills.
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Thanks for additional info guys! I know this is a general question, but will the ls6 clutch hold up the 125shot decently or will it just immediately slip completely?

Here's what I have thus far. http://www.vadriven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400943

I'm getting a plate, not sure which window switch to get, wideband-A/F guage and Fuel pressure switch <-- what exactly is this?

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by FuglyHippo
Thanks for additional info guys! I know this is a general question, but will the ls6 clutch hold up the 125shot decently or will it just immediately slip completely?

Here's what I have thus far. http://www.vadriven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400943

I'm getting a plate, not sure which window switch to get, wideband-A/F guage and Fuel pressure switch <-- what exactly is this?

Thanks,
Rick
The Ls6 clutch wont hold it for long!!!

I run a wet kit and love it...as long as you have the proper safety equipment everyone has mention you will be fine. its all in the tune..

Nitrous Outlet has a nice window switch

Nitrous is addictive!!!!!
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Spinmonster did a really cool setup with a dry system and HPTuners, that will guarantee it won't puddle. I think he did a writeup on here. I hate dry systems, but the way he's got his setup I would actually trust and run....



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Our engines can take it. carter01
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Sorry i meant to say youtube carter01. BUY A WINDOW SWITCH FROM NITROUS OUTLET THE BEST **** OUT THERE ASK FOR GRAHAM ON THE LS1TECH NITROUS SECTION (BEST CUSTOMER SUPPORT EVER)
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Nitrous doesn't puddle, fuel does. Run a dry kit and you will have no issues. That being said, a good Harris plate with 100-150 jetting and you are golden.
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Originally Posted by p1bz
Nitrous doesn't puddle, fuel does. Run a dry kit and you will have no issues. That being said, a good Harris plate with 100-150 jetting and you are golden.
It's a matter of wording,but you are correct. Personally I prefer my direct port setup.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Fuel can also puddle if you have too much fuel jet or too much fuel pressure. A fogger will prevent puddling for sure!
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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There is no such thing as puddling...... The nitrous and fuel mixture is through the intake and out the exhaust in a split second. Tune up is important with nitrous just as it is with any other power adder.

If puddling was possible all the guys that forget to turn there bottle on and the car falls on its face would be building motors. All the guys using blowers that provide fuel injectors before the throttle body would be building motors.

Nitrous back fires are usually a result of improper tune, wrong spark plug or not having a window switch. I have installed and tuned more nitrous systems than I can possibly remmember. I have yet to blow a car up other than my own. And it was non nitrous related.

The key is to get quality products from a manufacture that not only knows nitrous but knows your platform and can provide you with the technical help you need to do it right.

Just my .02
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:49 PM
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what about timing? are you guys running a nitrous specific tune that has limited timing? or other electronics that pulls timing when the kit is armed?
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