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Just got my car back last week from having an A & A Si kit installed and the car runs really well, although I must say that I am a little disappointed with the power it made on the dyno. Car made 474 hp before encountering valve float. My tuner is recommending I install the 2004 ZO6 valve springs on the motor, which I believe are yellow and carry GM part #12586484. They are certainly cheap enough, and the install cost isn't bad, so I was wondering if anyone here is running them on their LS1 and how much rpm and horsepower they gained. If not these springs which ones would you recommend for my combination?
The horsepower is directly proportional to RPM (Tq*RPM/5252), so don't worry. Replace the springs and the numbers will follow. I'm with the rest of the crowd. The GM springs are insufficient for your supercharged application. Patriot duals are probably the most popular and the best bang for the buck IMO.
I'm running the stock pulley. It is pinned. I am somewhat surprised that the valves started to float at 5200 rpm, given that the motor has less than 14,000 miles on it.
Thanks for the tips guys.
Not really interested in used springs, but thanks for the offer. Only question left now, is whether to go with the 1218's or the 1215's.
10 psi of boost drops effective spring pressure by 28 lbs? First I've heard of that. The stockers are only 76# closed and 220# open so that is a big impact! It would certainly explain things. Guess, I better get those springs pretty soon.
Blitzkrieg,
OK, I'm interested in the 918's but am wondering, why did you remove them from the car after the dyno runs?
Also, anyone else running these springs? Are you happy with them?
10 psi of boost drops effective spring pressure by 28 lbs? First I've heard of that. The stockers are only 76# closed and 220# open so that is a big impact! It would certainly explain things. Guess, I better get those springs pretty soon.
10 pounds per square inch applied across the back side of a 2.02" valve in, which drops the effective pressure by the amount of pressure (boost) applied the the back of that valve. Once the valve opens, the pressure is allowed to equalize some. Same concept as boost-referenced fuel. You always take the intake pressure and subtract it from the fuel pressure to get your effective pressure. If you have 43psi fuel pressure and 43 psi boost, when you open the injector, 0 fuel will flow.
Here are the 918s before I pulled them. Right now they're in a bag with retainer caps and valve locks. They appear to be compatible with stock seals, so those don't have to be changed. Let me know if you want them.
Hi Chris,
OK, I'll take them. Not clear what I'm buying though. Are you talking the springs, retainer caps, and clips for $100, or just the springs? Did some research and they are indeed compatible with stock valve stem seals and retainers.