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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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So, after a month of me tuning to get my car close I am finally going to have it professionally fine tuned on the dyno. Anyone have any ideas what numbers I should expect?

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A&A Vortech @ 10psi, 3.42 gears and catback are the only mods.

I know this is a shot in the dark thread, but it helps pass the day at work!
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525/475!
I think I would do a backflip if I hit those numbers in this Texas heat!!

appointment is at 4p, I will post up after it is done.
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Which pulley 3.6" or 3.8"?
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg
525/475!
With 10 psi of boost should be that. If you had headers and a good cam 575rwhp...
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With those really hot summers in TX, you should think about going with meth, you will be over 500HP and your intake air will be much cooler giving you more power and added safety to your car, well worth the $500. Think about it and give ECS a call, they can hook you up and give you all the details! 470HP is still very respectable! Good Luck
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With those really hot summers in TX, you should think about going with meth, you will be over 500HP and your intake air will be much cooler giving you more power and added safety to your car, well worth the $500. Think about it and give ECS a call, they can hook you up and give you all the details! 470HP is still very respectable! Good Luck
Meth is going on the car as a safety feature for sure. My tuner was suprised it made that much through basicaly stock exhaust and LS1 intake. Next steps are Meth/Headers and X/LS6 intake, that should get me in the 530-540 range! I saw some higher numbers on the dyno however it is pulled back to a safe range.
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Did you log boost?
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Aren't you worried about your transmission? The stock A4 is a seriously weak transmission.

I'm also running a stock A4 with my main mods as follows:

3.42 (3 rib)
Yank SS 3600
Dart Pro 1 heads (11:1 static compression)
228/232 .571/.573 112
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Heavily ported BBK TB
BBK Shorty headers
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Procharger head unit/bracket / A&A everything else.

I went with the 4.25 pulley to hopefully keep the boost around 5psi. I added the biggest B&M supercooler available to hopefully keep that trans alive for a while. In addition, my compression ratio + boost don't really get along.

I know the A4 is pretty weak, but you aren't any better off with a M6 as the stock clutch is pretty weak as well. I figure either A4 or M6 over 500rwhp and the clutch or trans will have to be replaced.

Is anyone running a stock A4 with decent hp (over 550rwhp) and the tranny is still holding up?
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I am running the stock A4 trans. I have a huge transmission cooler and never see tems over 170. Keeping the temps low on the A4 are key to keeping them alive. I am not worried about it giving up, it will eventually fail and when that happens I will upgrade. This is part of a high horsepower hobby.

I should note that this is not my daily driver so my concern may be lower than someone who relies on thier car for work, etc..

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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg
With those really hot summers in TX, you should think about going with meth, you will be over 500HP and your intake air will be much cooler giving you more power and added safety to your car, well worth the $500. Think about it and give ECS a call, they can hook you up and give you all the details! 470HP is still very respectable! Good Luck
Do you have any pics you can send me of your meth setup? I am looking for nozzle location, pump location, etc.
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The A4s MIGHT be a little stronger than some think (with exceptions)
I ran around 560RWHP with N2O (not spraying all the time of course) for around 4-5 years, then ran 600+rwhp for almost a year (which included a LOT of hard tuning runs) on a stock A4. When I pulled it for a stage V, it was still working perfectly.
With the V, I up'd the power and beat on it harder
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Originally Posted by Blow Torch
The A4s MIGHT be a little stronger than some think (with exceptions)
I ran around 560RWHP with N2O (not spraying all the time of course) for around 4-5 years, then ran 600+rwhp for almost a year (which included a LOT of hard tuning runs) on a stock A4. When I pulled it for a stage V, it was still working perfectly.
With the V, I up'd the power and beat on it harder
I agree. I have seen heat kill the best built tranny quickly. I have ran this transmission on two 11 second vehicles and have never had a failure with a good cooler. On the other hand while I learned this lesson I went through three on a bone stock truck.
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Do you have a dyno of your car? Saw you ran 118mph the other night. You will pick up 5mph with meth, and another 3mph in the winter. A little over 600rwhp, and I ran 135-136mph on my only 2 passes.
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Do you have a dyno of your car? Saw you ran 118mph the other night. You will pick up 5mph with meth, and another 3mph in the winter. A little over 600rwhp, and I ran 135-136mph on my only 2 passes.
I did not get a printout when I went to the dyno last time. I just ordered headers and catted X and I am on the lookout for an LS6 intake. As soon as I get those parts installed it will be back on the rollers. I will make sure to get a printout then.
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I did not get a printout when I went to the dyno last time. I just ordered headers and catted X and I am on the lookout for an LS6 intake. As soon as I get those parts installed it will be back on the rollers. I will make sure to get a printout then.
I don't see the LS1 intake as a restriction for you at this point in time. I would wait until you upped the HP more before adding the intake. When you do add another intake you should consider better heads, etc. I would time my motor changes for when it is necessary such as an inspection or repair. JMO.
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I don't see the LS1 intake as a restriction for you at this point in time. I would wait until you upped the HP more before adding the intake. When you do add another intake you should consider better heads, etc. I would time my motor changes for when it is necessary such as an inspection or repair. JMO.
Hmm.. The exhaust is my problem right now, I know that. I am not going to get a fast intake so I am going with the LS6 which is better than what I have. I dont follow on "timing my motor changes" as I do everything myself with the exception of dyno final tune and gear setups.
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