need advice
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
need advice
id like to see if im going in the right direction with this. also looking for opinions and some help.
within the next 2 weeks i plan on procharging my 99 FRC with 81k on the clock, stock other then a k&n and corsa catback. so far the list consist of:
a&a v3 t trim kit
flip drive
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure
also thinking of meth but would like suggestions on what kit would be best?
should i upgrade my fuel system? any suggestions?
may also add a ls6 intake to the list
i would also like suggestions on what clutch i should look into for my setup as im positive the one in the car will not hold up. also in the near future i plan on putting in a cam and longtubes.
within the next 2 weeks i plan on procharging my 99 FRC with 81k on the clock, stock other then a k&n and corsa catback. so far the list consist of:
a&a v3 t trim kit
flip drive
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure
also thinking of meth but would like suggestions on what kit would be best?
should i upgrade my fuel system? any suggestions?
may also add a ls6 intake to the list
i would also like suggestions on what clutch i should look into for my setup as im positive the one in the car will not hold up. also in the near future i plan on putting in a cam and longtubes.
Racer
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Alot of the suggestions really depend on how much power you plan/intend to make
meth - really depends on the amount of boost you plan to make - 8lbs or less i would not bother with meth, above 8lbs I would opt for single nozzle setup (ecs alky,snow, etc) up to 650, beyond that you are into dual nozzle in most applications
fuel system - you will most likely want/need at least a BAP and proper injector sizing. If you are going north of 550-600 you are probably going to need a more significant fuel sytem upgrade
clutch - I would go with the real deal out of the gate - MCloed twin RXT. You won't hurt it, RXT will hold up to 1000hp (flywheel), with as stock or lighter pedal feel. will work well at much less power levels with excellent wear characteristics
budget clutch - spec stage3 works well, but stiffer pedal pressure and fairly noisy/ sometimes chattery. If you are going for a refined feel it's not what you want.
meth - really depends on the amount of boost you plan to make - 8lbs or less i would not bother with meth, above 8lbs I would opt for single nozzle setup (ecs alky,snow, etc) up to 650, beyond that you are into dual nozzle in most applications
fuel system - you will most likely want/need at least a BAP and proper injector sizing. If you are going north of 550-600 you are probably going to need a more significant fuel sytem upgrade
clutch - I would go with the real deal out of the gate - MCloed twin RXT. You won't hurt it, RXT will hold up to 1000hp (flywheel), with as stock or lighter pedal feel. will work well at much less power levels with excellent wear characteristics
budget clutch - spec stage3 works well, but stiffer pedal pressure and fairly noisy/ sometimes chattery. If you are going for a refined feel it's not what you want.
Racer
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Well you will probably want meth setup - single nozzle
Also you will certainly want to put a set of valve springs in it comp cams 921 are good
My LS6 makes 550RWHP @ 9lbs (stock except valve springs)
- running a BAP with 60lb injectors
- ARH headers, X over, and corsa catback
- ECS alky injection - single nozzle
I expect you will need to make a bit more boost with the lower compression LS1 and heads to see the same rwhp
Also you will certainly want to put a set of valve springs in it comp cams 921 are good
My LS6 makes 550RWHP @ 9lbs (stock except valve springs)
- running a BAP with 60lb injectors
- ARH headers, X over, and corsa catback
- ECS alky injection - single nozzle
I expect you will need to make a bit more boost with the lower compression LS1 and heads to see the same rwhp
Safety Car
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,456
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From: Wichita Falls Texas
id like to see if im going in the right direction with this. also looking for opinions and some help.
within the next 2 weeks i plan on procharging my 99 FRC with 81k on the clock, stock other then a k&n and corsa catback. so far the list consist of:
a&a v3 t trim kit
flip drive dont need it
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure
also thinking of meth but would like suggestions on what kit would be best? ecs alky control
should i upgrade my fuel system? any suggestions? yes a bap or new pump and 60 or 80 lb. injectors
may also add a ls6 intake to the list wouldt hurt to add it
i would also like suggestions on what clutch i should look into for my setup as im positive the one in the car will not hold up. also in the near future i plan on putting in a cam and longtubes.
within the next 2 weeks i plan on procharging my 99 FRC with 81k on the clock, stock other then a k&n and corsa catback. so far the list consist of:
a&a v3 t trim kit
flip drive dont need it
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure
also thinking of meth but would like suggestions on what kit would be best? ecs alky control
should i upgrade my fuel system? any suggestions? yes a bap or new pump and 60 or 80 lb. injectors
may also add a ls6 intake to the list wouldt hurt to add it
i would also like suggestions on what clutch i should look into for my setup as im positive the one in the car will not hold up. also in the near future i plan on putting in a cam and longtubes.
Le Mans Master
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From: Metro Detroit Michigan
Stealth, on a stock engine, you can probably install everything that's included with the kit (if it's a complete new kit), get a tune, and go, although it probably won't get you to 550-600 rwhp. That way, you can drive the car and have fun while you decide what to do next.
Gauges are nice.
Valve springs can be done later, if it turns out that you need them, and you keep the stock cam. Lots of people are doing fine on stock springs, including me.
If you're going to install a cam eventually, a convenient time is when things are out of the way for pinning the crankshaft, while doing the blower install.
The clutch may hold for a while, or it may not.
Gauges are nice.
Valve springs can be done later, if it turns out that you need them, and you keep the stock cam. Lots of people are doing fine on stock springs, including me.
If you're going to install a cam eventually, a convenient time is when things are out of the way for pinning the crankshaft, while doing the blower install.
The clutch may hold for a while, or it may not.
Last edited by Warp Factor; Sep 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM.
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2011
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From: VERNON CT
thanks for the tips! maybe ill save the money from getting a flip drive and just do a cam install since it would be the time to do so.
any suggestions on cams?
revised list
a&a v3 t trim kit looks like the kit comes with fuel system upgrades, i was under the impression it did not.
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure, egt?
meth (future use) plus if i get the car tuned it would save time/money to just do it now
clutch
im looking at the rxt, is it really necessary or would the rst be ok? i dont think i would ever plan on getting anywhere near 800hp with a stock motor.
another question i have is should i get a v3 or v2? i like the idea of a self contained unit and not having to drill a hole in the oil pan but i was thinking that a v2 would be better since it would always have fresh COOLER oil rather then the self contained oil
any suggestions on cams?
revised list
a&a v3 t trim kit looks like the kit comes with fuel system upgrades, i was under the impression it did not.
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure, egt?
meth (future use) plus if i get the car tuned it would save time/money to just do it now
clutch
im looking at the rxt, is it really necessary or would the rst be ok? i dont think i would ever plan on getting anywhere near 800hp with a stock motor.
another question i have is should i get a v3 or v2? i like the idea of a self contained unit and not having to drill a hole in the oil pan but i was thinking that a v2 would be better since it would always have fresh COOLER oil rather then the self contained oil
Last edited by StealthFRC; Sep 8, 2011 at 08:33 PM.
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Safety Car
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,456
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From: Wichita Falls Texas
thanks for the tips! maybe ill save the money from getting a flip drive and just do a cam install since it would be the time to do so.
any suggestions on cams?
revised list
a&a v3 t trim kit
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure, egt?
meth (future use) plus if i get the car tuned it would save time/money to just do it now
bap, injectors
clutch
im looking at the rxt, is it really necessary or would the rst be ok? i dont think i would ever plan on getting anywhere near 800hp with a stock motor.
another question i have is should i get a v3 or v2? i like the idea of a self contained unit and not having to drill a hole in the oil pan but i was thinking that a v2 would be better since it would always have fresh COOLER oil rather then the self contained oil
any suggestions on cams?
revised list
a&a v3 t trim kit
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure, egt?
meth (future use) plus if i get the car tuned it would save time/money to just do it now
bap, injectors
clutch
im looking at the rxt, is it really necessary or would the rst be ok? i dont think i would ever plan on getting anywhere near 800hp with a stock motor.
another question i have is should i get a v3 or v2? i like the idea of a self contained unit and not having to drill a hole in the oil pan but i was thinking that a v2 would be better since it would always have fresh COOLER oil rather then the self contained oil
Drifting
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,546
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From: WENTZVILLE MO
If your buying a new kit from a&a the kit will should come with a BAP and injectors. I got meth just to lower IAT'a (not running meth dependant tune). I went with a textralia z grip clutch rated to 700 hp and it works good but any of the above mentioned clutches would prob work fine. I got the light weight flywheel and its alittle touchy leaving the stop light at regular driving. A&A sells cams also.
jobberone
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,062
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From: Kailua Kona HI
id like to see if im going in the right direction with this. also looking for opinions and some help.
within the next 2 weeks i plan on procharging my 99 FRC with 81k on the clock, stock other then a k&n and corsa catback. so far the list consist of:
a&a v3 t trim kit
flip drive not needed
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure boost and fuel pressure all you really need. You can get by with just fuel
also thinking of meth but would like suggestions on what kit would be best? single nozzle Alky Control if over 8 lbs. I'd add it no matter what JMO
should i upgrade my fuel system? any suggestions? BAP and in tank Walbro with 83# injectors
may also add a ls6 intake to the list not necessary. Spend the money on good springs.
i would also like suggestions on what clutch i should look into for my setup as im positive the one in the car will not hold up. also in the near future i plan on putting in a cam and longtubes.
within the next 2 weeks i plan on procharging my 99 FRC with 81k on the clock, stock other then a k&n and corsa catback. so far the list consist of:
a&a v3 t trim kit
flip drive not needed
piller pod with defi gagues, afr,boost,fuel pressure boost and fuel pressure all you really need. You can get by with just fuel
also thinking of meth but would like suggestions on what kit would be best? single nozzle Alky Control if over 8 lbs. I'd add it no matter what JMO
should i upgrade my fuel system? any suggestions? BAP and in tank Walbro with 83# injectors
may also add a ls6 intake to the list not necessary. Spend the money on good springs.
i would also like suggestions on what clutch i should look into for my setup as im positive the one in the car will not hold up. also in the near future i plan on putting in a cam and longtubes.
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2011
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From: VERNON CT
thanks for the help everyone 
the parts ordering has begun
on a side not tho im looking into stri gauges (Buddie recommended them) but would like to get some more opinions?
this is what im doing
v3 self contained t trim system
alky meth injection system
NGK wideband with ntk sensor
pillar pod from doubleDmods
stri boost and fuel pressure guage's
ls6 springs and retainers
im still undecided on a clutch tho, anyone heard anything about the specs? so far the rst is at the top of the list but im still looking around
the parts ordering has begun
on a side not tho im looking into stri gauges (Buddie recommended them) but would like to get some more opinions? this is what im doing
v3 self contained t trim system
alky meth injection system
NGK wideband with ntk sensor
pillar pod from doubleDmods
stri boost and fuel pressure guage's
ls6 springs and retainers
im still undecided on a clutch tho, anyone heard anything about the specs? so far the rst is at the top of the list but im still looking around
Drifting
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,533
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From: Oklahoma City OK
I went with the A&A kit this summer. This is the route I took.
V3 Si A&A kit w/ MAF Delete Pipe
KB BAP w/ 60lb injector
Racetronix Fuel Pump Harness
2 Bar SD sensor (for Speed Density tune, its what my tuner preferred)
Defi Boost and Fuel Pressure Gauges
McLeod RST Clutch
I tried to use the stock clutch, it slipped. It was very hot when we tried to tune, so we don't have any numbers yet. Might have a methanol kit soon also... we will see.
I am also running longtubes w/ high flow cats.
V3 Si A&A kit w/ MAF Delete Pipe
KB BAP w/ 60lb injector
Racetronix Fuel Pump Harness
2 Bar SD sensor (for Speed Density tune, its what my tuner preferred)
Defi Boost and Fuel Pressure Gauges
McLeod RST Clutch
I tried to use the stock clutch, it slipped. It was very hot when we tried to tune, so we don't have any numbers yet. Might have a methanol kit soon also... we will see.
I am also running longtubes w/ high flow cats.
Last edited by Chrisrokc; Sep 11, 2011 at 08:51 PM.