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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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First and second gears are useless. almost feels like my car is slower. Should i go back down to a 3.42 gear? My SC and larger cam plus 4.10 gear does not seem like the right set up.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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i have 4:10s with a big cam and i agree that 1st gear is rediculous. my second is managable, but with a sc... i cant imagine.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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I started with 4.10 @ 550 rw. Now I'm 3.73 with 730 and am looking to go 3.23-3.42. Unless it's primarily a strip car I'd get rid of the 4.10. Most of these SC cars are freeway toys. With 4.10's you're more than likely going to be a gear higher than your opponent during freeway pulls so they won't have to make as much power to hang with you.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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get better tires and learn to drive with them.... gears makes everything better and its far easier on your whole setup..
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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To have gears, you must have a good tire. Street tires are marginal on a bolt on car, with a SC, you must run tires. And, as stated above. Gears, make your trans, clutch, and gears happier as they see much less stress.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 01:04 AM
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My C5 has a built DTE 4.10 and an A&A Vortech kit on it. It made 535 rwhp and is a blast. Its a stock cam and stock bottom end. The car seems to just love it when I get on it.

Originally I did the gear because I never thought I would be able to get a SC. Well....I was wrong. I was nervous and talked to Andy at A&A for a while about it. He said that these Centri blower like a good gear in the back. Something about the blowers needing RPMs to make power and the gear helping to build RPM faster....not sure exactly.

Overall, he seems to be right. I run a Nitto drag radial and the car does make first gear slightly useless but it overall is very manageable. In fact it seems to be right in the power band when I shift.

I come from the 03-04 Cobra world where I had a twin screw Kenne Bell and putting a gear in that would have been pretty stupid. No need for torque help with that beast.

Maybe I will see ya around when spring hits.....i'm basically down Rt 31 in Cary
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by amidei
First and second gears are useless. almost feels like my car is slower. Should i go back down to a 3.42 gear? My SC and larger cam plus 4.10 gear does not seem like the right set up.
If you have anything above 500 rwhp anything lower then a 4:42 are useless for the street, its only a matter of time before you start snaping axles,trans,etc
aside that, driving sucks when your car always feels like its on the edge.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Prop Job
I started with 4.10 @ 550 rw. Now I'm 3.73 with 730 and am looking to go 3.23-3.42. Unless it's primarily a strip car I'd get rid of the 4.10. Most of these SC cars are freeway toys. With 4.10's you're more than likely going to be a gear higher than your opponent during freeway pulls so they won't have to make as much power to hang with you.
I agree I love the 3:42 gear in the corvette best alround gear in this car with any type of blower r turbo on it. Robert
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Originally Posted by robert miller
I agree I love the 3:42 gear in the corvette best alround gear in this car with any type of blower r turbo on it. Robert
9 year old thread.
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Hey let's keep it going! I love my 4.10s with the blower. I don't find first gear useless at all. The secret is not treating the throttle like an on/off switch and running a tire with some actual grip I couldn't stand the 3.42s before the blower.
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Old Oct 23, 2020 | 02:36 PM
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What's 9 years anyways!
Best thing I did on an STS (a hair laggy I guess) was Unitronix 4:10's! 6lbs, 500 to the wheels, stock engine. Adding the Nitto's made it a fun package otherwise 1st, 2nd, and after 4,000+ RPM when all the boost hit was problematic to say the least unless you wanted a drift car. Now it's quick and a great workout for your right bicep!
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Originally Posted by 2000BC
What's 9 years anyways!
Best thing I did on an STS (a hair laggy I guess) was Unitronix 4:10's! 6lbs, 500 to the wheels, stock engine. Adding the Nitto's made it a fun package otherwise 1st, 2nd, and after 4,000+ RPM when all the boost hit was problematic to say the least unless you wanted a drift car. Now it's quick and a great workout for your right bicep!
Did you order a complete diff from Unitrax or were you in CA at the time you had them done? That's who did my gear install 1-2 years ago
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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 10:44 PM
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Had 4.10’s with 600+rwhp and m/t ss in back .... car was useless 1-2 and often 3.

i now have 3.42 with 800rwhp and m/t ss in back...car is fantastic! Totally different machine.

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the more torq the taller gears help hold in the powerband and plant the power better
in my case, the car is making 800 rwhp and 790 torq ttix turbo car
going from a 3.90 gear with z06 6 spd to an auto with a 3.43 gear took the car from 10.50s to 9.84 best
a bit lower in hp and torq with the auto, but with the revised gearing, torq conv, and taller gears the car ran much better
staying with a stick, and the big gears, mellow them a bit with a taller tire with some sidewall and they will do as designed and get things moving
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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by joshtownsend
get better tires and learn to drive with them.... gears makes everything better and its far easier on your whole setup..
I disagree. The 4L60E has a 3.06:1 1st gear. Running a 4.10 gear with the 4L60Es is like running a 5.06 gear (yes, I know they never made a 5.06, this was just for comparison) on a 350/400 Turbo!!! Also, the lower the gear in the rear housing on a C5 also reduces the overall strength of the "pumpkin", and has resulted in blown cases. I believe a 3.42 gear would be perfect for what you're doing. In any case (no pun intended), I wouldn't go any larger than a 3.73 rear gear, just sayin'......
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by heggsc5
Did you order a complete diff from Unitrax or were you in CA at the time you had them done? That's who did my gear install 1-2 years ago
Bought it used off of this forum in parts. The seller sent pictures etc and said if not good ship it back. I checked it when I got it and in excellent shape. I installed it myself since I grenaded the original stock diff and installed trans brace, and other heavy duty items. So far it's taken everything I've thrown at it. Good rear!
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3.42s can already blow through 1st, 2nd, & 3rd in my > 650h/630t TVS car on 27" 200TW summer tires. i almost contemplated a 3.15 swap but didn't want to stress the rear end too much... that & to my knowledge, i'm the only one running this 6.2 cam in anything smaller than a 6.0, so i kinda need the 3.42s to keep my clutch alive.
i couldn't imagine my tire bills with 4.10s

N/A would be a different story

Originally Posted by robert miller
I agree I love the 3:42 gear in the corvette best alround gear in this car with any type of blower r turbo on it. Robert
dangit, Robert. we expected better from you! 9 yrs
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