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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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i have a 408 9.5-1 compression coming from TSP and im wanting to get everything i need cuz i want my car running BAD.
It will have stock l92s, l76 intake and ls2 tb.
I am "planning" on running a D1SC and keep a "conservative" 650-700 rwhp to start with. 1st boosted car and i wanna get used to it first.

I am also planning to break the motor in with a mail order tune WITHOUT the procharger on it for probably 500 miles. then get a dyno turn when i add the procharger

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1. What fuel system would be recommended?? duel pumps, hot wire kit,injectors ???

2. I don't have to pin a Callies crank, right?( i wanna do it now if i do)

3. Is my break in process correct ?

4. will a Monster clutch stage 3 work for me? i already bought it but thinking about returning it.[/SIZE]

here is my thread i started if it helps at all
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...post1579876336

thanks so much in advance to any help at all. i know alot of you guys have been though what i am going though so i figured this would be the best place to get some knowledgeable answers. i will continue to post questions as they arrise.
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Circa307
i have a 408 9.5-1 compression coming from TSP and im wanting to get everything i need cuz i want my car running BAD.
It will have stock l92s, l76 intake and ls2 tb.
I am "planning" on running a D1SC and keep a "conservative" 650-700 rwhp to start with. 1st boosted car and i wanna get used to it first.

I am also planning to break the motor in with a mail order tune WITHOUT the procharger on it for probably 500 miles. then get a dyno turn when i add the procharger

questions:::

1. What fuel system would be recommended?? duel pumps, hot wire kit,injectors ???

2. I don't have to pin a Callies crank, right?( i wanna do it now if i do)

3. Is my break in process correct ?

4. will a Monster clutch stage 3 work for me? i already bought it but thinking about returning it.[/SIZE]

here is my thread i started if it helps at all
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...post1579876336

thanks so much in advance to any help at all. i know alot of you guys have been though what i am going though so i figured this would be the best place to get some knowledgeable answers. i will continue to post questions as they arrise.
1. I would run some sort of dual pump set up. I'm running RSI dual 255 pump hanger with their harnessl 80lb. Injectors, high flow rails, and fuel lab regulator. I guess you could run the stock fuel lines and rails but in the end your going to limit your horse power goals.

2. You don't have to pin the crank but you run the highly risk of the balancer slipping in the crank hub due to the higher tension of the belt. Unless the crank has a key on the hub, but then you would need a balancer that has a slot for the key. I would not skip this .

3. I have a 347 D1SC that makes 750rwhp and I have a monster stage 4. So far I'm over the rated range for this clutch. I would call them and ask if you could send it back for an upgrade. I would get a stage 5 or 6 if I were you. I mean I'm already looking at the stage six for myself.

4. Ask the engine builder that they recommend. All I did was put about 4 hours of running time, a couple heat cycles, a couple of revs, and made sure everything was working correctly. Then trailered the car straight to the dyno with the blower and 18lb of boost. I think I put around 5 miles from driving it around the block.

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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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pin the crank for sure! I had my aftermarket crank keyed they cut a key way in before shipping it to me. my 8'' balance came with a key way
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 03:28 AM
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Only suggestion I have is if you are going to use the stock fuel lines, swap out the 01 fuel filter/regulator with a 98-99 filter and get a regulator on the rail with a return line back to the tank. Additionally I would add the racetronix fuel pump harness with whatever pump set up you use, dont think you will need a BAP if you go dual in tank pump.

Good luck with the build, you will love it!
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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1. What fuel system would be recommended?? duel pumps, hot wire kit,injectors ???

Dual pumps is a must with upgraded/dedicated wiring for everything. You'll probably be looking at 80# injectors at the levels you want. Upgraded rails and lines would be recommended as well. Check out the A&A setup, not saying buy it, but it is a good layout.

2. I don't have to pin a Callies crank, right?( i wanna do it now if i do)
Pin the crank, non-negotiable.

3. Is my break in process correct ?

4. will a Monster clutch stage 3 work for me? i already bought it but thinking about returning it.
I would also take a look at twin disc options. I'm happy with my ACT twin disc. Very nice drive-ability and bite, but I'm only pushing 620rwhp and 550rwtq.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Well i returned my monster stage 3 and stepped up to a stage 5. Plus I don't mind an "off on" feeling clutch.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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I have a stage 2 ecs fuel system as well as a dual nozzle meth system that would be more than adequate for you that I took out of my boost car, I was making 800 at the wheels with both of them.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by undertaker
I have a stage 2 ecs fuel system as well as a dual nozzle meth system that would be more than adequate for you that I took out of my boost car, I was making 800 at the wheels with both of them.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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I have a stage 2 ecs fuel system as well as a dual nozzle meth system that would be more than adequate for you that I took out of my boost car, I was making 800 at the wheels with both of them.
HOLLY SMOKES, 2,000$ for this set up new. after this project is done i am going back into the "the true cost of FI" sticky, and re-write it. lol


could i just run some 60-80lbs injectors while im breaking my motor in WITHOUT the blower ? I really dont feel like buying one set of injectors for NA break in and then buy another set when i add the blower.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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btw, talked with A&A today and they said that if my callies crank is keyed that i dont have to pin it. he also said that it would hurt if i still wanted to pin it. I WILL PIN IT, not going to start skipping stuff now.
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Just put it together the way you plan on keeping it blower ect. then just stay out of boost drive it 500miles that's what I did works fine! you can get some 60# or 80# injectors and a KB boost a pump! and make 650rwhp! I ran like that for a year! went low 10s add meth later retune and your good for 700 easy! that's what I did I built up to it! down the road you can add a A&A fuel system leave the Kenny bell on too and your good for 800rwhp! if you can I would just buy some #80s and a A&A fuel system wait on the meth good luck!
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Circa307
btw, talked with A&A today and they said that if my callies crank is keyed that i dont have to pin it. he also said that it would hurt if i still wanted to pin it. I WILL PIN IT, not going to start skipping stuff now.
The keyway is all you need is strong thats what I have I would not want to drill on my crank or balancer anymore than needed

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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cool guess ill have to get another damper/pulley now to fit the keyway. DA*& always something. i looked at the A&A fuel kit. i will call them tomarrow to see if i can possible get it with black braided lines and AN fittings
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Circa307
cool guess ill have to get another damper/pulley now to fit the keyway. DA*& always something. i looked at the A&A fuel kit. i will call them tomarrow to see if i can possible get it with black braided lines and AN fittings
I have a summit balancer with a key way I can sell you I never used its 8 rib but you can run a 6 rib too!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-C2501/?rtype=10

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by a/c man
I have a summit balancer with a key way I can sell you I never used its 8 rib but you can run a 6 rib too!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-C2501/?rtype=10
ya no way a pined crank is stronger then a keyed crank. that pulley looks great. let me make 100% sure that my crank is keyed and ill hit you up. Motor should be coming in within the next week or two. thanks ac man for you help btw
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Originally Posted by Circa307
HOLLY SMOKES, 2,000$ for this set up new. after this project is done i am going back into the "the true cost of FI" sticky, and re-write it. lol


could i just run some 60-80lbs injectors while im breaking my motor in WITHOUT the blower ? I really dont feel like buying one set of injectors for NA break in and then buy another set when i add the blower.
I've been driving my suburban around with no blower on it for 50-60k miles NA on 60 lb injectors. (injector tables are set for 60's though)

And I've thrown a turbo kit on a car with a stock tune and drove it with stock injectors to get tuned (staying out of boost)
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by a/c man
YOU need this and he is a great member you can trust
hell I have everything he needs minus a piston, connecting rod and 2 valves

did sell the 8 rib setup though, only broke the car last June, lmao...
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hell I have everything he needs minus a piston, connecting rod and 2 valves

did sell the 8 rib setup though, only broke the car last June, lmao...
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Know t a limiting factory but could I still run stock ls3 fuel rails ? The a&a fuel kit looks good but wondering about the stockish fuel rails
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Originally Posted by Circa307
Know t a limiting factory but could I still run stock ls3 fuel rails ? The a&a fuel kit looks good but wondering about the stockish fuel rails
yes stock rails are good to about 750hp
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