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Old Jul 3, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Currently have a 01 Z06. Going to be boosting it soon. Remote TT setup. I have HP tuners and am very familiar with it on 4cyl chevys. I've come across a few things that talked about SD tunes. I'd love to switch over to speed density once the turbos are on. Whats needed to do this and get rid of the MAF? I only plan to run about 6-7psi, so not sure if there needs to be an ECU swap to switch to SD or maybe just changing the operating system or if its simply a matter or changing the MAP sensor and rescaling everything. Any guidance would be appreciated.
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Currently have a 01 Z06. Going to be boosting it soon. Remote TT setup. I have HP tuners and am very familiar with it on 4cyl chevys. I've come across a few things that talked about SD tunes. I'd love to switch over to speed density once the turbos are on. Whats needed to do this and get rid of the MAF? I only plan to run about 6-7psi, so not sure if there needs to be an ECU swap to switch to SD or maybe just changing the operating system or if its simply a matter or changing the MAP sensor and rescaling everything. Any guidance would be appreciated.
With the tubors and only that little boost keep the MAF on the car until you are in the need for more power, are chg out all the bottom end for good stuff so you can turn up the boost and still be per say safe. Robert
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With the tubors and only that little boost keep the MAF on the car until you are in the need for more power, are chg out all the bottom end for good stuff so you can turn up the boost and still be per say safe. Robert
So the stock MAF can handle that much more power? (150ish)

I've never tuned anything with a MAF, only SD tunes with boost. I assume its pretty close to MAP tuning where instead of changing VE, you would be changing MAF frequencies?

So then if you can indeed use the stock MAF, really aside form the tuning part, the only changes that would need to be made would be larger injectors and changing the fuel constant? (assuming fuel pump shouldn't need changed at that low of a boost level)
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You will also need to change the power enrichment vs rpm to account for the increase in fuel needed under boost. There is a lot of good info on HP Tuner Forum to get you going. 6-7 lbs you would be fine with the MAF tune. SD can be used also by upgrading the OS, HPT forum has great help files on doing all this.
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Where does the stock MAF max out at as far as an approximate HP level? Also, if switching to the SD operating system, can the 01 ECU handle that or does another year need to be used?
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If I remember right, my MAF maxed at around 5500rpm at about 550rwhp.

Not sure about the 01 PCM.
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Thats right about where I would expect to be, if not just over with the TT's. As I said, I'm new to MAFs, so whats my best option for tuning this with HTP? Larger MAF or stock one modified some how? or switch over to the SD OS?
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If I remember right, my MAF maxed at around 5500rpm at about 550rwhp.

Not sure about the 01 PCM.
Mike how is the car doing now man hope you got all the bugs out of her. Robert
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Mike how is the car doing now man hope you got all the bugs out of her. Robert
Car is running fine and I think all the bugs are gone. I wish I had a track around here that didn't kick me off after the first run I get on it.... I really want to see how deep in the 9's I can get. My best run, 9.5, was the first run on the new motor.
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Thats right about where I would expect to be, if not just over with the TT's. As I said, I'm new to MAFs, so whats my best option for tuning this with HTP? Larger MAF or stock one modified some how? or switch over to the SD OS?
I would run what you got and see if you truely need to change anything. Most likely don't need to until you up your power then I would go SD.

Again, HPT forum has a ton of help threads on how to set things up for MAF and SD.
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Id be surprised if you dont exceed the maxium limits of the MAF at WOT.

Your MAF is limited to 12000 Hz. Since you exceed that limit, your computer will feel like its hitting the rev limiter. What's happening is the computer is reseting for a quick second. Not exactly what you want when your an FI vehicle.

You'll want HP Tuners to write a new operation system for your vehicle, or go speed density.

We just hired Ian Thomson former instructor for the tuning school, and he excels in forced induction engines.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Not really finding much info on HTP (at least in the gen 3 section). I really only have 2 main questions I need answered for now:

1) To change to the SD tune, will the 01 PCM work is a different year's needed?

2) To change to the SD tune, I believe you need to flash a new OS. Is this true and where can one find a copy of that OS?
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Not really finding much info on HTP (at least in the gen 3 section). I really only have 2 main questions I need answered for now:

1) To change to the SD tune, will the 01 PCM work is a different year's needed?

2) To change to the SD tune, I believe you need to flash a new OS. Is this true and where can one find a copy of that OS?
I believe the OS for that year is available from HPT via buying credits. Here is a link to the how to on HPT forum. Its titled; Applying a 2 Bar SD Enhancement


http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...ht=bar+upgrade
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Nice. Thanks Mike. I didn't realize you could change the OS that easily. I'm use to having to download a completely different one to reflash. Almost like using someone elses tune from the repository.
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