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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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Ok guys well after a few years of fun it is time to go forged. I have been looking at different options, I was leaning towards and LSX block setup but just an overkill for right now.

I have been looking at the TSP product lineup for their longblocks. They quoted be about $8000 for a 402/408 longblock that will hold 1000-1100. I need help getting a cam specs for my vehicle. Right now I have a T trim setup which i wish to max out and put some juice on top for now. Then eventually go turbo when I get tired of this setup.

Now I never had an issue with TSP the products I have ordered from them before have been great. They say I should have the long block in max 4 weeks. What do you guys think?? what should I do ??? what combo will you guys go with?

Any input would be appreciated.
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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Give Arun i here a p.m. on cams and the spec of the motor you or looking at. to get max out of the motor ever thing in the motor needs to work together. He has or had a special on cams and will help you out. Robert
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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What are the TSP long block specs/components?
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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TSP's machining process is crap from what I understand and I have personally seen one of there high dollar LSX block engines go kaboom for no good reason. If your going to farm out your build to a mainstream shop and value is very important to you take a look at AES. They appear to build a SOLID engine at a great price.

As far as cubic inches go...

What are your ultimate goals for the car?
What kind of events do you plan to use it for? Drag? Road Racing? Standing Mile?
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TSP's machining process is crap from what I understand and I have personally seen one of there high dollar LSX block engines go kaboom for no good reason. If your going to farm out your build to a mainstream shop and value is very important to you take a look at AES. They appear to build a SOLID engine at a great price.

As far as cubic inches go...

What are your ultimate goals for the car?
What kind of events do you plan to use it for? Drag? Road Racing? Standing Mile?
I'm not saying your comment on TSP engine builds are right or wrong, but isn't judgeing them on one motor you seen blow a little harsh? I'm sure they have thousand other motors that are still strong. The only reason I'm commenting on this I'm soon to be also looking for a build and although I know who I think is going to build it, TPS was one of the one's I looked at. So if you no why the engine blew and it was proven their fault post your claim, if you don't have proof it's a false claim.
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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I've got nothing but praise to say about my LME nitrous stroker motor. As to Texas Speed I had a motor from them years ago, couldn't comment since they moved shops and upgraded.
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave concrete
I'm not saying your comment on TSP engine builds are right or wrong, but isn't judgeing them on one motor you seen blow a little harsh? I'm sure they have thousand other motors that are still strong. The only reason I'm commenting on this I'm soon to be also looking for a build and although I know who I think is going to build it, TPS was one of the one's I looked at. So if you no why the engine blew and it was proven their fault post your claim, if you don't have proof it's a false claim.
Sure, false claim. Wtf do I know about fast cars or building engines. Good luck man.

FYI, bearing clearances were a disaster across the board.
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Originally Posted by Dave concrete
I'm not saying your comment on TSP engine builds are right or wrong, but isn't judgeing them on one motor you seen blow a little harsh? I'm sure they have thousand other motors that are still strong. The only reason I'm commenting on this I'm soon to be also looking for a build and although I know who I think is going to build it, TPS was one of the one's I looked at. So if you no why the engine blew and it was proven their fault post your claim, if you don't have proof it's a false claim.
TSP builds motors on an assembly line pretty much, AES has 1 guy building your motor and they are a smaller shop that takes there time to check, check and double check that all tolerances are correct! They are building a 390 for me and there prices are by far better than any other vendor with same parts. I looked at 10 different shops and AES got my business for several good reasons. Pick who ever you want, but TSP was near the bottom of my list!

http://www.aesracing.net/product_info_390LS1.htm

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Fast motors are setup on feel.. everyday run of the mill motors are setup by the book!!!

At $8k, i hope you have something made of gold installed in there.
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
Sure, false claim. Wtf do I know about fast cars or building engines. Good luck man.

FYI, bearing clearances were a disaster across the board.
I said nothing that you don't know what your talking about just needed to post a fact, now you did. There is a vendor on here that I know of with at least 10 bad motors but I don't why and people constantly recommened them and I don't say nothing because I don't have facts in why it happened.
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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I bought my shortblock used for a steal from an engine builder with a spec sheet. He had built it for himself. I lucked out. Knowing what I know now, and seeing what I've seen in the past I think I will pay a machine shop to do everything but assemble, check clearances myself, and then assemble it. I've never done it before, but this is rocket science. Get the proper tools and take your time.
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Originally Posted by Dave concrete
I said nothing that you don't know what your talking about just needed to post a fact, now you did. There is a vendor on here that I know of with at least 10 bad motors but I don't why and people constantly recommened them and I don't say nothing because I don't have facts in why it happened.
PM me the name of the shop... I may have some facts depending on who it is.
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Looks like I will be getting a new motor soon so I will be keeping an eye on this
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