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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 07:22 AM
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I will make this as short as possible. Current problem is pump is not getting power. Now here is the story. Original setup was a aero 340 with a bap. With that was running out of fuel up top. Then I randomly blew the fuse for the bap and melted the fuse harness in the process. Repaired that and a added a second aero 340 both running full time. Then melted the wiring harness an bulkhead at the fuel pump . Repaired that and completely changed the the fuel system to 2 walbro 255's, with one pump activated by a hobs and the other on factory fuel wiring. Also had a bad ground in the pump area and fixed that. Car was running great an driving. Parked for 2 weeks and went to start yesterday and pumps are not getting power!!!! Im ready to set the car in fire!!!
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I forgot to add that it does have a racetronix harness, I threw the bap in the trash when I switched to the walbro pumps. Car is an 01 6spd targa coupe with a destroked 427 (387ci) and a procharger d1sc

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Do you have power from the eyelet connector to the relay on the racetronix harness? If you use a jumper to activate the fuel pump relay (signal to racetronix harness) do you have 12+ VDC to the pump connection? How is the second pump being supplied power?
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Have not checked that yet, second pump is powered from the alternator which pins do I jump to test the pump
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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What gauge wire is it? Have you checked to see how much current the pumps pull?
Any loose connections?
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 12:24 AM
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Did you check the In-Line fuse on the Racetronix wire harness?

Check the fuel pump relay as well.

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Originally Posted by StatmanRN
What gauge wire is it? Have you checked to see how much current the pumps pull?
Any loose connections?
Second pump is on 10g wire with inline 30a fuse
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Did you check the In-Line fuse on the Racetronix wire harness?

Check the fuel pump relay as well.

Thanks,Matt
yes I did check the fuse and no I have not checked the relay yet
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OK - keep us posted!

You can jumper the relay as well when you pull it!







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Thanks and I will. May mess with it today if not will be saturday.
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Cool.
Looking forward to seeing it fixed.

Thanks, Matt
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Me too cuz if not, im pulling all the FI **** out and rebuilding my motor back to 427ci and staying all motor!!
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K did the jumper test and nothing!! If anybody wants to give me a call and help me out 812-498-5956 larry.
I have a volt meter just not sure where I should be checking. I unplugged the connector on the pump hat and test each pin. One was a lil over 10v and the other was 33.5v and the other 2 were 0v so those were grounds im assuming
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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I did figure out that the PCM is not sending 12 volts through the relay for the fuel pump. I tested it with a multi-meter and was only pushing about 5 volts
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on a side note I noticed some interference coming through my audio system so I believe I may have another bad ground.how do I check for a bad ground with a multi-meter?
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This is your best bet, contact Bill Curlee, usually he hangs out in the TECH Section.
He can walk you through the electrical and send some schematics to you as well.
I won't be able to help tonioght or tomorrow and am leaving for Big Bear Saturday.

Bill will get back with you asap and will also be able to talk on the phone.

Thanks,Matt
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Any ideas on what is causing my problems
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As of now the problem was another bad ground and I believe both pumps are shot. Im gonna try the jumper trick again now that the ground is fixed but pretty sure I will be buying 2 more pumps
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As of now the problem was another bad ground and I believe both pumps are shot. Im gonna try the jumper trick again now that the ground is fixed but pretty sure I will be buying 2 more pumps
Good find!

You might need to trace, from the fuel pump forward, the wire harness all the way to the fuse box if necessary! That is if any problems still exist after this try.

Hopefully the pumps are not fried and it was just the ground!

Keep us posted on the results and if you can take some pics of the damage and findings, they help us too when we need to help

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Car is fixed, ground for pumps came off inside the tank due to loose connector. Im going to do some modifying to the pump hat for better piece of mind. Im also installing my -8 lines and rails. Car will be finished soon
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