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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Last year made 730 whp on a p1sc on a old a and a bracket that slipped bad at 6300 rpm. W a ported fast

Just bought a procharger f1d and looking forward to bolting her on.

What can I expect from this blower?

Combo. Forged 346 and new this year, ported Vic jr w Arron's elbow, new a and a 8 rib, Dallas performance dd, 8 in or iw balancer and Procharger f1d.
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Need more info. How many rpms are you going to spin the engine and the F1d? How many cfm is the F1 rated at and what camshaft are you using?

Edit: I went ahead and read up on the F1-D. If you are able to set everything up correctly and get results similar to what you got with the P-1SC, I predict about 880 rwhp. Why didn't you choose the F1 or F1-A?

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My guess some were in the mid to upper 800 WHP range.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fotoboy
Last year made 730 whp on a p1sc on a old a and a bracket that slipped bad at 6300 rpm. W a ported fast

Just bought a procharger f1d and looking forward to bolting her on.

What can I expect from this blower?

Combo. Forged 346 and new this year, ported Vic jr w Arron's elbow, new a and a 8 rib, Dallas performance dd, 8 in or iw balancer and Procharger f1d.
It's never enough.: lol:
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fotoboy
Last year made 730 whp on a p1sc on a old a and a bracket that slipped bad at 6300 rpm. W a ported fast

Just bought a procharger f1d and looking forward to bolting her on.

What can I expect from this blower?

Combo. Forged 346 and new this year, ported Vic jr w Arron's elbow, new a and a 8 rib, Dallas performance dd, 8 in or iw balancer and Procharger f1d.
Bro,

You need to provide many more details for an accurate guess. How much PSI are you going to run?

Not all 346's are created equal. What cam? Pistons? Heads? Compression? How many RPM's are you taking the motor to? Tranny an Auto or Manual and is it built? Rear end built? Exhaust?

Tell us about your build!

If you want a stab in the dark guess...I would think that any F1 blower would be enough for 800+RWHP...but that is literally the only reasonable guess that can be made with the information you have provided.
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 02:18 AM
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You need to provide many more details for an accurate guess. How much PSI are you going to run?

Not all 346's are created equal. What cam? Pistons? Heads? Compression? How many RPM's are you taking the motor to? Tranny an Auto or Manual and is it built? Rear end built? Exhaust?

Tell us about your build!

If you want a stab in the dark guess...I would think that any F1 blower would be enough for 800+RWHP...but that is literally the only reasonable guess that can be made with the information you have provided.

Cam 228 232 595 574 114 Lsa. Patriot ls6 style portrd heads,Fully forged 346 set up for boost w dished pistons but still mid 10.7 comp. e85 like to go 7000 rpm, mn6 stock geared, full rkt56 drivetrain w McLeod rxt, alum flywheel, Borla zr1 with TPIS 1 3/4 long tube headers.

With the 8 in lower even with putting on 4.5 in upper I'm looking at 67200 impeller rpm.

This blower was designed for more mid to low tq. It has the f1 housing w a d1sc impeller. Procharger rates them at 1000 hp on their site.

My thought is I'm gonna have a hard time getting it under 900 whp. I'd like to try and get closer to 800 to make sure the ls1 block can handle the power.

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Originally Posted by fotoboy
Cam 228 232 595 574 114 Lsa. Patriot ls6 style portrd heads,Fully forged 346 set up for boost w dished pistons but still mid 10.7 comp. e85 like to go 7000 rpm, mn6 stock geared, full rkt56 drivetrain w McLeod rxt, alum flywheel, Borla zr1 with TPIS 1 3/4 long tube headers.

With the 8 in lower even with putting on 4.5 in upper I'm looking at 67200 impeller rpm.

This blower was designed for more mid to low tq. It has the f1 housing w a d1sc impeller. Procharger rates them at 1000 hp on their site.

My thought is I'm gonna have a hard time getting it under 900 whp. I'd like to try and get closer to 800 to make sure the ls1 block can handle the power.

Hard time getting it UNDER 900rwhp? LOL.. Good luck..

You'll likely be 800-850rwhp... Depending on how hard you spin it...

Mine worked pretty hard to hit 900hp SAE and that was on a 402/f1r spinning 68k rpms.. Depends how much timing is in it too..
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Hard time getting it UNDER 900rwhp? LOL.. Good luck..

You'll likely be 800-850rwhp... Depending on how hard you spin it...

Mine worked pretty hard to hit 900hp SAE and that was on a 402/f1r spinning 68k rpms.. Depends how much timing is in it too..

Honestly I'm hoping to be closer to the 800-850 mark. Last year I did 730 w a p1sc so it's hard for me to believe I won't be closer to the 900 whp going up 2 steps.
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Originally Posted by fotoboy
Cam 228 232 595 574 114 Lsa. Patriot ls6 style portrd heads,Fully forged 346 set up for boost w dished pistons but still mid 10.7 comp. e85 like to go 7000 rpm, mn6 stock geared, full rkt56 drivetrain w McLeod rxt, alum flywheel, Borla zr1 with TPIS 1 3/4 long tube headers.

With the 8 in lower even with putting on 4.5 in upper I'm looking at 67200 impeller rpm.

This blower was designed for more mid to low tq. It has the f1 housing w a d1sc impeller. Procharger rates them at 1000 hp on their site.

My thought is I'm gonna have a hard time getting it under 900 whp. I'd like to try and get closer to 800 to make sure the ls1 block can handle the power.
Nice build.
I am interested to see how that blower works for you.
It should be pretty responsive.

Have you budgeted for the new block yet?
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Nice build.
I am interested to see how that blower works for you.
It should be pretty responsive.

Have you budgeted for the new block yet?
def been in the back of my head lol
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21 lbs of boost at 5800. I need to get teh boost down
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That's nuts! Did the tuner get a whp number on it at 5800 rpm? Was it already over 900?

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That's nuts! Did the tuner get a whp number on it at 5800 rpm? Was it already over 900?

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No, street tuned. We started w a 2.75 restrictor in a 4 in a and a dongle. It made 15 psi at 5500 and flat lined to 14.5 at 6600. We put the 3 in in and it made 18 psi strong to 6600. Looks like I need another pump now. A 340 intank and a o44 is not enough on e85
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No, street tuned. We started w a 2.75 restrictor in a 4 in a and a dongle. It made 15 psi at 5500 and flat lined to 14.5 at 6600. We put the 3 in in and it made 18 psi strong to 6600. Looks like I need another pump now. A 340 intank and a o44 is not enough on e85
Do you have a boost a pump on the 044?

I'm quite curious to see what power you're making at 18 psi.. E85 will help a lot.
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Originally Posted by fotoboy
No, street tuned. We started w a 2.75 restrictor in a 4 in a and a dongle. It made 15 psi at 5500 and flat lined to 14.5 at 6600. We put the 3 in in and it made 18 psi strong to 6600. Looks like I need another pump now. A 340 intank and a o44 is not enough on e85
What injectors you using and whats the duty cycle on them??
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Do you have a boost a pump on the 044?

I'm quite curious to see what power you're making at 18 psi.. E85 will help a lot.
No boost pump for me. Ill be adding another pump soon.
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What injectors you using and whats the duty cycle on them??

Bosche 127 lb and not sure. I know they are getting close, we had to lower fuel pressure to 50 psi to not work the pumps as hard but the duty cycle went up.
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Are you sure? I'm running an LPE pump and Bosch 044 on my car at over 800 whp and I still have some room to go....Bosch 127's too at about 89% duty cycle
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Are you sure? I'm running an LPE pump and Bosch 044 on my car at over 800 whp and I still have some room to go....Bosch 127's too at about 89% duty cycle
Turns out teh check valve was too restrictive. Im now too fat on af and def not running out of pump. Injectors should be at about 80% at my power level. Guess it gets to go back for a retune.

Oh and car is liter bike fast now so that goal was achieved.
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