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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Just reading install instructions. It says "MAP sensor can be placed under dash if an aftermarket gauge is used". What kind of gauge, boost gauge? How would I know if mechanical or electronic?

Do most mount the turn on LED in gauge pod?

I will ask for a non-meth dependent tune, so will this operate the same? Will it still come on at 4 pounds of boost, or will it be set up differently to just come on if/when needed?
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Call Julio---813-788-2590 It's his system.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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Just reading install instructions. It says "MAP sensor can be placed under dash if an aftermarket gauge is used". What kind of gauge, boost gauge? How would I know if mechanical or electronic? Mine is zip tied right under the steering wheel


Do most mount the turn on LED in gauge pod? Yes

I will ask for a non-meth dependent tune, so will this operate the same? Will it still come on at 4 pounds of boost, or will it be set up differently to just come on if/when needed? It will come on at whatever boost level it's set to. I can't remember what it is. The car will run richer and how much richer depends on much you turn it up. Richer will net less power. Make sure you make a good ground for the MAP sensor. If not, the pump will run unless you have it off.

I rarely use mine as my tuner said I didn't need to start pulling timing until the IAT was over 130*. I had my car tuned without meth and now just have it set to about 2.

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What gauge is it referring to in my fist question, boost? How do I tell if mechanical?
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Originally Posted by 95wht6spd
What gauge is it referring to in my fist question, boost? How do I tell if mechanical?
Mechanical gauge is one that has a plastic tube to make its needle move. Electronic gauge doesn't have any connection pneumatically from the engine to the gauge.
If you run a standard boost gauge with a 1/16 plastic tube going to the gauge, then simply cut the tube, put the T fitting, and mount the MAP sensor under the dash.
Mechanical gauges are available from Autozone, Summit, Jegs, etc.. Autometer, VDO, etc etc etc.
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I rarely use mine as my tuner said I didn't need to start pulling timing until the IAT was over 130*. I had my car tuned without meth and now just have it set to about 2.
Low **** settings make the system lazy. Your better of getting a small nozzle and turning up the controls so it makes pressure.
That LED has to go GREEN when you get on the pedal. Red means 0-50 psi.. low settings dont apply a lot of power to the pump and if air gets trapped in the system may not displace it.

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OK thanks, Autometer gauges were in the car in A pillar pod when I got the car, so not sure. I will check it out when installing. thanks
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Originally Posted by Julio
Low **** settings make the system lazy. Your better of getting a small nozzle and turning up the controls so it makes pressure.
That LED has to go GREEN when you get on the pedal. Red means 0-50 psi.. low settings dont apply a lot of power to the pump and if air gets trapped in the system may not displace it.

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Can you link me a place to get a smaller nozzle than the one that came with my kit from ECS?

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Im running a M10 nozzle i got from Julio
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Originally Posted by danieloneil01
Can you link me a place to get a smaller nozzle than the one that came with my kit from ECS?

The post you just quoted is the guy who makes your kit. He has a website www.alkycontrol.com but I don't think you can order directly from the site. Below, I've listed his email address. I'm pretty sure that's his paypal address too. His name is Julio.

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Originally Posted by danieloneil01
I rarely use mine as my tuner said I didn't need to start pulling timing until the IAT was over 130*. I had my car tuned without meth and now just have it set to about 2.
Though high IAT's can cause KR (Knock Retard) which would cause you to want to pull timing, There's more reason besides high IAT that you could get KR and want to pull timing. If your meth pump speed is too low the system won't be operating with enough pressure. This isn't good. It could cause atomization problems.
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Take off your A pillar and look at the back of the gauge. Its most likely a mechanical one; most autometer gauges are mechanical, and their electronic ones are 4X the price of the mechanical ones...

If the gauge is like the last autometer boost gauge I had, there will probably be a small white semi-rigid tube going into the back of the gauge. You'll need to splice into where it goes into the gauge. There's a fitting where the tube goes into the gauge, I believe its a 3/8" pipe thread fitting. You can buy a T splice at home depot. Make sure to use teflon tape so it doesn't leak. You'll just have to see what your fittings look like, and go from there. If there is a thicker black tube going to the gauge than that's even easier... just T splice it with a barbed T fitting and go from there...

Meth dependent tune means that the tuner tunes the car to the limit, meaning that if the meth injection ever stops working, the car will knock. A non-meth dependent tune means that the tuner tunes the car without injecting any meth, and then afterwards they turn on the meth injection just for good measure. You can spray as much meth as you want really, but if you're not meth dependent, then you may as well just shoot a moderate dose, so that you don't go too rich, and so that your meth lasts longer.
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