Electronic power steering?
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Melting Slicks
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Electronic power steering?
Anyone that has had the pleasure to work on and or mod a C7, know how awesome it is to have the electronic power steering and have the extra space available for engine bay mods.
I have mildly searched on and off now for a "kit" or even info on the electronic steering for the 14 C7. Mostly google and mild forum searches. I have found NADA other then mild info. Nothing techy. I am willing to bet the the C7 has several sensors, probably a module or two, not to mention the steering stalk/wheel/harness assembly .
Anywho, anyone here anything on this or know of something in the works?
Guess I could always call TURNONE and see.
Thanks in advance!
I have mildly searched on and off now for a "kit" or even info on the electronic steering for the 14 C7. Mostly google and mild forum searches. I have found NADA other then mild info. Nothing techy. I am willing to bet the the C7 has several sensors, probably a module or two, not to mention the steering stalk/wheel/harness assembly .
Anywho, anyone here anything on this or know of something in the works?
Guess I could always call TURNONE and see.
Thanks in advance!
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Melting Slicks
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From: East Coast fl
Guess I should hang out more in the RR section and see if someone with big fronts(wheels/tires) uses a manual rack and still fits in a suit. Has anyone here? And uses the car on street still, possible road/track events on a course? Not just straight line.
Defiantly open minded on that.
Melting Slicks
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Depends where you're trying to free up space, what options you might have.
There are cars over here in the UK with electric PAS with the assistance provided up at the column. People retrofit this, and you can buy a cheap controller to let you dial in the level of assistance you want.
Obviously you need space in the column area to achieve this ( GM/Vauxhall/Opel cars so they may well have something in the US too )
You could either switch to a manual rack, or just run the PAS rack dry ( not literally dry, but with out the hydraulic assistance pump and lines. Usually PAS racks are less turns lock-lock anyway, so better.
Or the other option is electro hydraulic. Where you have a remote pump and reservoir to provide the hydraulic assistance in place of the engine's mechanical pump.
Again with used parts this is a relatively cheap deal and the pump can be mounted almost anywhere.
There are cars over here in the UK with electric PAS with the assistance provided up at the column. People retrofit this, and you can buy a cheap controller to let you dial in the level of assistance you want.
Obviously you need space in the column area to achieve this ( GM/Vauxhall/Opel cars so they may well have something in the US too )
You could either switch to a manual rack, or just run the PAS rack dry ( not literally dry, but with out the hydraulic assistance pump and lines. Usually PAS racks are less turns lock-lock anyway, so better.
Or the other option is electro hydraulic. Where you have a remote pump and reservoir to provide the hydraulic assistance in place of the engine's mechanical pump.
Again with used parts this is a relatively cheap deal and the pump can be mounted almost anywhere.
Le Mans Master
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If you're thinking manual rack, saving weight, making space, I suggest the TRZ tubular K member.
Had mine for couple years now, it's just plain bad azz.
http://trzmotorsports.com/wp2/?produ...th-rack-mounts
I understand they make them with motor mounts also.
Had mine for couple years now, it's just plain bad azz.
http://trzmotorsports.com/wp2/?produ...th-rack-mounts
I understand they make them with motor mounts also.
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I would not recommend a manual rack in a street car, and definitely not in a road course car.
I have been looking into retro fitting a C7 rack into my road race car, the steering on a C7 is noticeably better IMO then it's predecessors and you can change the steering percentages to what you choose.
I have been looking into retro fitting a C7 rack into my road race car, the steering on a C7 is noticeably better IMO then it's predecessors and you can change the steering percentages to what you choose.
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I would not recommend a manual rack in a street car, and definitely not in a road course car.
I have been looking into retro fitting a C7 rack into my road race car, the steering on a C7 is noticeably better IMO then it's predecessors and you can change the steering percentages to what you choose.
I have been looking into retro fitting a C7 rack into my road race car, the steering on a C7 is noticeably better IMO then it's predecessors and you can change the steering percentages to what you choose.
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The pinto style racks use non sealed swivel fittings that will not last long in street use, and are not very strong. Great for drag use, but not the best for street. I drove mine on the street, but not something I would recommend to most people.
Add the drag of a wide tire and the manual rack is even harder to steer.
That's my take on it, others may have a different opinion on it.
Besides a typical 60 hr work week, we broke ground a few weeks ago on a 10,000 sq ft addition to the shop that I'm GC'ing, my RHS block is a week or two out for my convertable, I'm getting my Camaro drag car together to sell, putting the drive train in the road race car, started to pull the hurt 502 out of my Eliminator, and everyone of those things will be dropped like a sack of potatoes if one of my kids ask to throw a ball around.
So the point is, dont sit on the edge of your seat holding your breath or you may turn blue and die, but I am slowly working on sourcing the components to do it and I'll post it up if/when completed.
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The racks typically used in a Vette is a narrowed Pinto style rack from Flaming river or a competitor. A manual rack in a purpose built race car is much stronger and geared differently.
The pinto style racks use non sealed swivel fittings that will not last long in street use, and are not very strong. Great for drag use, but not the best for street. I drove mine on the street, but not something I would recommend to most people.
Add the drag of a wide tire and the manual rack is even harder to steer.
That's my take on it, others may have a different opinion on it.
Besides a typical 60 hr work week, we broke ground a few weeks ago on a 10,000 sq ft addition to the shop that I'm GC'ing, my RHS block is a week or two out for my convertable, I'm getting my Camaro drag car together to sell, putting the drive train in the road race car, started to pull the hurt 502 out of my Eliminator, and everyone of those things will be dropped like a sack of potatoes if one of my kids ask to throw a ball around.
So the point is, dont sit on the edge of your seat holding your breath or you may turn blue and die, but I am slowly working on sourcing the components to do it and I'll post it up if/when completed.
The pinto style racks use non sealed swivel fittings that will not last long in street use, and are not very strong. Great for drag use, but not the best for street. I drove mine on the street, but not something I would recommend to most people.
Add the drag of a wide tire and the manual rack is even harder to steer.
That's my take on it, others may have a different opinion on it.
Besides a typical 60 hr work week, we broke ground a few weeks ago on a 10,000 sq ft addition to the shop that I'm GC'ing, my RHS block is a week or two out for my convertable, I'm getting my Camaro drag car together to sell, putting the drive train in the road race car, started to pull the hurt 502 out of my Eliminator, and everyone of those things will be dropped like a sack of potatoes if one of my kids ask to throw a ball around.
So the point is, dont sit on the edge of your seat holding your breath or you may turn blue and die, but I am slowly working on sourcing the components to do it and I'll post it up if/when completed.
I think you need to re-address your priorities!
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Melting Slicks
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From: East Coast fl
Depends where you're trying to free up space, what options you might have.
There are cars over here in the UK with electric PAS with the assistance provided up at the column. People retrofit this, and you can buy a cheap controller to let you dial in the level of assistance you want.
Obviously you need space in the column area to achieve this ( GM/Vauxhall/Opel cars so they may well have something in the US too )
You could either switch to a manual rack, or just run the PAS rack dry ( not literally dry, but with out the hydraulic assistance pump and lines. Usually PAS racks are less turns lock-lock anyway, so better.
Or the other option is electro hydraulic. Where you have a remote pump and reservoir to provide the hydraulic assistance in place of the engine's mechanical pump.
Again with used parts this is a relatively cheap deal and the pump can be mounted almost anywhere.
There are cars over here in the UK with electric PAS with the assistance provided up at the column. People retrofit this, and you can buy a cheap controller to let you dial in the level of assistance you want.
Obviously you need space in the column area to achieve this ( GM/Vauxhall/Opel cars so they may well have something in the US too )
You could either switch to a manual rack, or just run the PAS rack dry ( not literally dry, but with out the hydraulic assistance pump and lines. Usually PAS racks are less turns lock-lock anyway, so better.
Or the other option is electro hydraulic. Where you have a remote pump and reservoir to provide the hydraulic assistance in place of the engine's mechanical pump.
Again with used parts this is a relatively cheap deal and the pump can be mounted almost anywhere.
Thanks for your thoughts, i'll look further into it.
If you're thinking manual rack, saving weight, making space, I suggest the TRZ tubular K member.
Had mine for couple years now, it's just plain bad azz.
http://trzmotorsports.com/wp2/?produ...th-rack-mounts
I understand they make them with motor mounts also.
Had mine for couple years now, it's just plain bad azz.
http://trzmotorsports.com/wp2/?produ...th-rack-mounts
I understand they make them with motor mounts also.
Just don't think it is what I am looking for, on this particular build. GREAT thinking though, thank you.I would not recommend a manual rack in a street car, and definitely not in a road course car.
I have been looking into retro fitting a C7 rack into my road race car, the steering on a C7 is noticeably better IMO then it's predecessors and you can change the steering percentages to what you choose.
I have been looking into retro fitting a C7 rack into my road race car, the steering on a C7 is noticeably better IMO then it's predecessors and you can change the steering percentages to what you choose.
Do you know all of what it entails? I could use my old GM password and look into description and operation and see what it needs to operate. Guessing it could work somehow. I'll try and look into it asap.
The racks typically used in a Vette is a narrowed Pinto style rack from Flaming river or a competitor. A manual rack in a purpose built race car is much stronger and geared differently.
The pinto style racks use non sealed swivel fittings that will not last long in street use, and are notq
So the point is, dont sit on the edge of your seat holding your breath or you may turn blue and die, but I am slowly working on sourcing the components to do it and I'll post it up if/when completed.
The pinto style racks use non sealed swivel fittings that will not last long in street use, and are notq
So the point is, dont sit on the edge of your seat holding your breath or you may turn blue and die, but I am slowly working on sourcing the components to do it and I'll post it up if/when completed.
