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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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I would ask this in the tech section but I've learned that the FI crowd tends to have a lot more knowledge/experience with high-performance products.

I'm installing a set of LG's soon and was thinking I might want to go a step further with locking HW. I have always used the stockers and have never had them loosen up or back out but there's always room for improvement.

So, what's the best locking header bolt out there? I've seen different setups such as the Stage 8 3-piece system, the Proform inter-locking washer setup, the NASCAR safety-wired type and the ARP stud kit. Any experience with these or other systems that you can give to or disrecommend? Use em', don't use 'em? What's the general consensus here?
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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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I have stock bolts in mine.
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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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ARP stud set up.
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Old Dec 24, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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I like the idea of the studs for installation - seems it would give you a nice "hanger" effect with no fear of stripping the threads in the head trying to get the first couple started. The locking double washers look doable as well but have the same drawback a standard bolt in getting #7 and #8 started.

The Stage 8's are a cool idea but I can see those being a pain in having to fiddle with the locking clips since it's not "line of sight" engagement/removal of that clip. I can foresee considerable use of expletives while searching for dropped clips and in trying to get them on/off by feel.
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Arp studs on a few of my set ups and never had a backing off issue. I usually check mine when I do plugs, always tight
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Arp studs on a few of my set ups and never had a backing off issue. I usually check mine when I do plugs, always tight
same here Had someone working on the car yrs back before using the ARP studs. Well got the car back with one bolt hole stripped out and he said after I called him on it, it was like that when he was working on it. After that I have used the ARP studs set up never has back off.
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Just ordered a set of ARP studs. Pricey!
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Just ordered a set of ARP studs. Pricey!
Yep, but they just work
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I use the header studs from a 3.1L Gtp (03-08 I believe). Not as pretty as ARP's, but easy to get and very reasonable from my GM dealer
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I have always used studs on the outside bolts of any headers. Much easier to hang the headers, then notch the tabs and insert gaskets
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Originally Posted by JoeyG
I use the header studs from a 3.1L Gtp (03-08 I believe). Not as pretty as ARP's, but easy to get and very reasonable from my GM dealer
I had no idea about these. Good info.
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Or just buy long bolts or threaded rod and cut them down and screw them in for studs.

Dirt cheap.
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arp studs^^^^^
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