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Old Dec 19, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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Looking at different things to do on my current build. It's a forged 346 with an A&A Si-Trim, 3.4 pulley (12psi), blower cam, and longtubes. Sitting at 638rwhp/550rwtq.

Has anyone ported a set of the oem 243 heads, intake, or throttle body on an FI build? If so, what were the results. Curious if it's worth the money and effort.

What about other heads, intake, throttle body options?
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The Fast 102mm Intake and the LS2 Throttle Body are better than the C5........ I have those 3 things but I'm N/A going into FI within the next 3 months.

I had the NW 102mm Throttle Body but had to take it out, too many problems at idle. Maybe for our cubic inch all we need is the fast 92mm intake but oh well, I bought it already.

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One more thing, the LS3 throttle body doesnt work properly in our cars, the cabling is different.
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I'm kind of in the same boat as you. Was thinking about adding Fast 102 but read a lot of bad stuff about adding 102 to FI LS. I think I'm just gonna port stock LS6 intake and heads.
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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HOZ06
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. Was thinking about adding Fast 102 but read a lot of bad stuff about adding 102 to FI LS. I think I'm just gonna port stock LS6 intake and heads.
If I knew before what I know now I would have never replaced the stock throttle body and the ls6 intake. This is difficult to explain unless you experience idle issues yourself but at this point I can't roll back.
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Can you pulley down to 3.2-3.3"? Intake and heads will net you small gains. Meth injection might be more useful if you don't already have it. It will let you run more timing and run safer.

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Can you pulley down to 3.2-3.3"? Intake and heads will net you small gains. Meth injection might be more useful if you don't already have it. It will let you run more timing and run safer.
I don't think I want to spin the little Si-Trim any faster than I already am with a 3.4 pulley and running out to 7,000rpm. I plan on doing meth injection, but I'm looking at options beyond that as well. Was thinking it would be nice to port the heads, swap the throttle body and intake, then do meth and get it all tuned at once.

If anyone has been using a supercharger, and then ported the LS6 heads and throttle body, I'd really like to hear what the results were.

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I'd skip the TB (read instances of people going back to stock for FI) since it's a headache for minimum hp gain and maybe just do the heads. The gains from ported heads might be more than N/A, maybe 30-40 rwhp at best? Some of the FAST intakes were suspected to leak under boost but there's plenty of people using them I think. It's generally a lot of money spent for minimum gain.

Best bang for the buck might be to look into swapping to a ti-trim

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Dropping down to 3.4 and adding meth was something else I was looking at. I'm sure the meth will help during the summer in MS. I need to address my fuel system as well. Better too much than not enough.
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Originally Posted by ysb02
I'd skip the TB (read instances of people going back to stock for FI) since it's a headache for minimum hp gain and maybe just do the heads. The gains from ported heads might be more than N/A, maybe 30-40 rwhp at best? Some of the FAST intakes were suspected to leak under boost but there's plenty of people using them I think. It's generally a lot of money spent for minimum gain.

Best bang for the buck might be to look into swapping to a ti-trim
I'm also looking at T Trim and YSI swaps. The problem is I can't find any information on how they compare. Where does anyone find this information?

For example, if I'm running an Si on a 3.4 pulley at 638whp and swap to a T on the same pulley...what will the difference be? How small of a pulley can you run on a T before overspinning? What about a YSI on a 3.4?

I've tried to look up info and ask questions to learn, but it seems like a lost cause. The vendors don't comment or directly answer these types of questions either.

I have quotes and everything from A&A for T and YSI swaps, but I have no idea which would be productive for my goals. They don't comment on it either. If I could swap to a T and get the job done, I would. But there's no information available on any of these blower units to figure that out.

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Originally Posted by Quickshift_C5
I'm also looking at T Trim and YSI swaps. The problem is I can't find any information on how they compare. Where does anyone find this information?

For example, if I'm running an Si on a 3.4 pulley at 638whp and swap to a T on the same pulley...what will the difference be? How small of a pulley can you run on a T before overspinning? What about a YSI on a 3.4?

I've tried to look up info and ask questions to learn, but it seems like a lost cause. The vendors don't comment or directly answer these types of questions either.

I have quotes and everything from A&A for T and YSI swaps, but I have no idea which would be productive for my goals. They don't comment on it either. If a I could swap to a at and get the job done, I would. But there's no information available on any of these blower units to figure that out.
I may say that you started with the wrong head unit? I know for sure that in the world of supercharger PROCHARGER is king. Your goals could have been fulfilled just with a D1SC. About the heads I went from 241 to 243 fully rebuilded and it gives me around 40 rwhp, I do not know exactly if they ported or not, I just drop the heads and all internals new exept the rocker arms.
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40 rwhp N/A engine practically stock is GREAT, so for FI should be even better but of course this was supported with a mild camshaft that it gave me another 50 rwhp..........And I do not spin my RPMs over 6k

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Originally Posted by typeav
I may say that you started with the wrong head unit? I know for sure that in the world of supercharger PROCHARGER is king. Your goals could have been fulfilled just with a D1SC. About the heads I went from 241 to 243 fully rebuilded and it gives me around 40 rwhp, I do not know exactly if they ported or not, I just drop the heads and all internals new exept the rocker arms.
No, I went with the correct head unit at the time 4 years ago. My goals have changed since then.
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