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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 02:40 AM
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I nuked my LS1 on the bottle due to the fuel solenoid not opening, spraying a 150 without the addition of fuel. I now have my new LS6 in the car and I am a little gun shy about putting the bottle back on. This forum is not helping because I read about everyone else grenading their motors too. I used to be Mr. Nitrous, but now I feel like a scared BEE-ATCH... What should I do...
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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Sell your parts to me that you're not gonna use ;)
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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I also blew my stock engine with the Juice and spent big bucks on a 422 Nitrous engine that let go after 2 Nitrous runs in May. I'm going to get the car back soon and I'm a little Gun Shy also about going with the Juice.
I guess if the new engine you have now is fast enough for you, Retire the Nitrous. I don't know what to do. I didn't want to spend more money to change to an all N/A engine. Good Luck.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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I also blew my stock engine with the Juice and spent big bucks on a 422 Nitrous engine that let go after 2 Nitrous runs in May. I'm going to get the car back soon and I'm a little Gun Shy also about going with the Juice.
I guess if the new engine you have now is fast enough for you, Retire the Nitrous. I don't know what to do. I didn't want to spend more money to change to an all N/A engine. Good Luck.
Tom,
your new engine should hold the Juice without a problem.
I hope ARE does service you good now, Matt told me they would.
And the engine will be strong then.

You will have fun with it!!!!

No need to be gun shy....you know enough about Nitrous and you will see
lot´s of low tenths and high nines without a problem.

I have a good feeling, you´ll see I´m right.

Don´t get frustrated in your old days, buddy!!! :lol:

You know that you´re my idol, I learned such a lot from you about Nitrous use and hard launches..........................

You´re one of the fastest here on the forum.................
.........................and you will be in the future, too!!!!!!

This is to you my friend.
:smash: :cheers: :smash:


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Tom played a bit too much with the NOS on his stock engine....he did 225+ hp wet+dry shots.......that´s on or better let`s say above the limit of the stock engine.
I´m pretty sure the engine faílure he had with his new stroker will not happen again....ARE should take care of that.

I also play a lot with that Nitous stuff....no failure, yet (knock on wood), but it can happen everytime.

If you play with that hp....equal if turbo or Nitrous....something can break.
If you wanna stay save.....stay stock.
If you need the power (like I do)....then be prepared to invest some $.

We all have to pay to play.

Michael



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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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need the power, but can't afford another LS6 block (and still keep the woman happy)
I would be devistated emotially & alittle financially if my brand new 02' short block ($5500.00) went south becuase of something stupid, like the fuel solenoid not opening, or a piece of something getting past the n2o filter and screwing things up again.

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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Not sure to put it back on (ICULUKN-C5)

It sounds like you're not ready to take the risk....which is always there with nitrous. I would wait until you are ready to take the risk before reinstalling it.

A good idea might be to save up for a blower. That'll be more consistent with less chance of a meltdown IMO.

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need the power, but can't afford another LS6 block (and still keep the woman happy)
I would be devistated emotially & alittle financially if my brand new 02' short block ($5500.00) went south becuase of something stupid, like the fuel solenoid not opening, or a piece of something getting past the n2o filter and screwing things up again.
I know what you mean :yesnod:

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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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I know I'm not helping much... but save for an ATI. I know you blew a chunk on the new motor and labor... and understand that the ATI may be a bit much on the pocketbook but just keep your eyes open on a used C5 kit. The head units are rebuildable at the factory... and even if the package is incomplete we can piece it back together, install, and dyno tune it. Then you'll have 520+ at the rear wheels :)

(edit) Actually you would have quite a bit more than 520 as you have heads/cam and long tubes. Sorry the 520 number came from 2 bone stock ATI Z06's we completed.


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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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Have you considered going with a dry kit?
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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You could also double up the nitrous and fuel solenoids for safety if you are concerned. A little more expensive, but you would have to have seriously bad luck to have two solenoids fail at the same time. Run the nitrous solenoids in series and the fuel in parrallel. That way one 'noid failure will not nuke the engine. If you test them on a regular basis, I would think you would be fine.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 08:53 PM
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I was thinking of changing kit to a dry kit, but I was concerned about not getting proper distribution of the N2O to the cylnders, I was also kicking around the idea of the dual solenoids. Money for solenoids is not the problem. Money to replace shortblocks is. One problem that I have heard of in AZ is overheating with ATI. Not sure if I should go that route when it gets sooo hot in the summer time
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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I think you should go with double noids and a direct port kit. I saw you posted over with C5noir on the direct port question. Obviously, if you go direct port, you will not have fuel or nitrous distribution problems and with double noids, your chance of a noid failure nuking the engine are very small. Plus, you get the "nifty" points at the car shows for the cool under hood look. Very few things look meaner than a direct port nitrous system, except for a blower and a direct port system! Maybe twin-turbos.......
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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I'd hold off on the nitrous for a little while if I were in your shoes.

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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 12:44 AM
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im looking into direct port. And I like the idea of doubling up the noids. Does anyone have pics of what the direct port system looks like installed/ uninstalled?
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Check this page out. This is one of APE's LS6 manifolds with a Shark system on it. Mine will be a little taller because it was the first one they did. They have put a couple of these on F-body cars and a few on C5's as well. Mine should be in this week and I will post pics of it when I get it.
http://www.ap-engineering.com/ls1_extras.html
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