I got my custom TNT ring made ;)
10-12-2002, 11:39 AM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (glen5839)
Levi,
I am disappointed that you didnt use the Nitrous Express Quad Shark nozzles. Everyone needs a dual shot fogger. :crazy: Looking good.
Phillip
I am disappointed that you didnt use the Nitrous Express Quad Shark nozzles. Everyone needs a dual shot fogger. :crazy: Looking good.
Phillip
10-12-2002, 11:40 AM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (akw408)
That's a beautiful piece but why would the original TNT ring hit the hoodliner? Is it the ring hitting the hoodliner or are the hoses? Anyone have a picture of what he's talking about?
And getting alittle off track, but with the power ring, do you have to shorten the duct from the air bridge to the TB?
And getting alittle off track, but with the power ring, do you have to shorten the duct from the air bridge to the TB?
And yes, you do have to shorten the coupler if you have an aftermarket duct. It needs 1.25" of the silicone coupler removed to install the ring. However if you have the stock duct and coupler the accordion coupler will fit w/no cutting.
For those interested in one, let me know so I know how many are for sure on wanting one. The more that want one the lower the price ;)
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10-13-2002, 05:13 PM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (Tuan Le)
Who did it and how much!! I MUST HAVE IT!! :cool: :cool: :cheers: You don't like your purple TNT power ring? Why don't you just polish it off?
10-14-2002, 11:36 AM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (NoMercy)
*WARNING* - Make sure your masseter muscles are contracted ;)
For the polished stainless steel unit, with 5 orders, the price is....
$285
For the polished stainless steel unit, with 5 orders, the price is....
$285
10-14-2002, 04:00 PM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (C5Noir)
*WARNING* - Make sure your masseter muscles are contracted ;)
For the polished stainless steel unit, with 5 orders, the price is....
$285
For the polished stainless steel unit, with 5 orders, the price is....
$285
10-14-2002, 06:19 PM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (NoMercy)
Ok, fellas, I need a FOR SURE count of those that will pay $300 shipped for the Polished/Stainless Steel Ring, Set screw and O-ring. Thanks. PS - I am making ZERO money from this. It's purely the cost of materials and labour for the machinist.
10-18-2002, 07:00 PM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (NoMercy)
If I was'nt dumping soooo much money on this 388 All-bore then I would definately be in. I don't think I can justify $300 just for looks. I do have priorities!:crazy: I really need some more chrome under the hood.
C5Noir is a good guy for getting this deal for everyone though... :yesnod:
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C5Noir is a good guy for getting this deal for everyone though... :yesnod:
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10-21-2002, 10:39 PM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (C5Noir)
Anyone?
10-22-2002, 09:42 AM
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Re: I got my custom TNT ring made ;) (kwik8racr)
kwik8racr, for your benefit, and those who may not understand what's involved in doing a "simple" project like this, I'll explain since I'm the engineer that helped Levi on this.
First, Levi sent me his existing TNT ring. I carefully measured it and and then drew it up in CAD. (That only took me about an hour and I donate my time occasionally to fun projects like this. :) ) I have a great relationship with one of our vendors (a good friend also) who machines virtually all my medical prototypes, plus the owner of the company owns a C5 :cheers: and often makes stuff for me at cost or gratis when I need a one-off prototype on a vette project. As you can see, he does excellent work.
I sent the drawing to my friend and discussed the application and the fit and finish requirements. He squeezed it into his scheduled and had the piece to me in less than a week. And he didn't charge me for it, again because he's a buddy helping a fellow C5'er out.
Now, the raw material cost (303 stainless) for this piece is $45. The remaining cost is setup time and actual machining time. Due to the one-off, low quantity nature of the part, it's made on manual machine tools because programming a CNC would require much higher quantities to reap the benefits of mass production. The quoted price of $285 was actually not even based on my friend's standard shop rate. He reduced it for me as a favor. Using standard rates, the piece actually costs $385 at a quantity of 5.
Manually machining it means intial machine setup time has to be spread across the 5 units I requested. Setup time is a significant cost in low-quantity machining. Because of this, machine shops generally shy away from low-quantity jobs because of high per-piece cost unless they specialize in prototypeing and deal with customers familiar with the pricing schedules. I have another friend locally who owns a machine shop and he runs screaming from one-offs/low quantities because of this, although he modified my UD pulley last week as a favor to me. I didn't give him this job because my other friend is more capable of doing beautiful prototypes.
Also, the $285 price is cost - neither Levi nor I are making anything. In fact, we've spent our own money in shipping stuff back and forth. The included hardware is also at cost. I would have to order 14 O-rings (minimum order req'mts.) and only use 5. Total cost to me for each ring, including hardware and setscrew, is about $290. I figured about $10 for shipping for a total of $300. That way I wouldn't lose money.
I do this stuff as a fun diversion from my usual engineering duties - not to make money. Actually, Levi has yet another prototype he received from me yesterday that we cooperated on last week. That was another "simple" project. Make no mistake about it though - prototyping is expensive. You can't compare mass-produced component prices to one-off's. If you do, then everything looks overpriced. I have no problem sending someone the drawing for this so they can get a quote on their own and have it made elsewhere. I doubt you'll get it done cheaper unless you have buddies like mine.
I hope this helps put things in a little better perspective.
:cheers: :seeya :chevy
First, Levi sent me his existing TNT ring. I carefully measured it and and then drew it up in CAD. (That only took me about an hour and I donate my time occasionally to fun projects like this. :) ) I have a great relationship with one of our vendors (a good friend also) who machines virtually all my medical prototypes, plus the owner of the company owns a C5 :cheers: and often makes stuff for me at cost or gratis when I need a one-off prototype on a vette project. As you can see, he does excellent work.
I sent the drawing to my friend and discussed the application and the fit and finish requirements. He squeezed it into his scheduled and had the piece to me in less than a week. And he didn't charge me for it, again because he's a buddy helping a fellow C5'er out.
Now, the raw material cost (303 stainless) for this piece is $45. The remaining cost is setup time and actual machining time. Due to the one-off, low quantity nature of the part, it's made on manual machine tools because programming a CNC would require much higher quantities to reap the benefits of mass production. The quoted price of $285 was actually not even based on my friend's standard shop rate. He reduced it for me as a favor. Using standard rates, the piece actually costs $385 at a quantity of 5.
Manually machining it means intial machine setup time has to be spread across the 5 units I requested. Setup time is a significant cost in low-quantity machining. Because of this, machine shops generally shy away from low-quantity jobs because of high per-piece cost unless they specialize in prototypeing and deal with customers familiar with the pricing schedules. I have another friend locally who owns a machine shop and he runs screaming from one-offs/low quantities because of this, although he modified my UD pulley last week as a favor to me. I didn't give him this job because my other friend is more capable of doing beautiful prototypes.
Also, the $285 price is cost - neither Levi nor I are making anything. In fact, we've spent our own money in shipping stuff back and forth. The included hardware is also at cost. I would have to order 14 O-rings (minimum order req'mts.) and only use 5. Total cost to me for each ring, including hardware and setscrew, is about $290. I figured about $10 for shipping for a total of $300. That way I wouldn't lose money.
I do this stuff as a fun diversion from my usual engineering duties - not to make money. Actually, Levi has yet another prototype he received from me yesterday that we cooperated on last week. That was another "simple" project. Make no mistake about it though - prototyping is expensive. You can't compare mass-produced component prices to one-off's. If you do, then everything looks overpriced. I have no problem sending someone the drawing for this so they can get a quote on their own and have it made elsewhere. I doubt you'll get it done cheaper unless you have buddies like mine.
I hope this helps put things in a little better perspective.
:cheers: :seeya :chevy