Anyone run a chiller on their c5? I'm interested and considering purchasing one.

 

I installed one on a customer car. It's a good thing that I'm good with fabricating and welding. The owner was very nice and very intelligent about his product but didn't seemed to struggle to grasp the layout of the C5's and so it ended up taking 6 months to get all the parts that I needed from him to get it functioning. I ended up having to cut and weld all of the fittings to get everything to fit and work. I have a friend that's an engineer for GM that I've worked with to come up with a much better system that I'll be using for my build. On his CTS-V, his IAT's are in the low 50's in the summertime. I hope to be able to take some time to develop a kit for the C5's in the future but am not close enough to say when yet. If you're good with fabrication and welding, I can set you up with a more universal kit and offer you some support throughout the installation.

Bret

 

Hmmm. How long ago are you talking. I spoke with the owner on Tuesday. He assured me the kit was c5 specific and a simple bolt up kit ( to and A2W set up of course).

 

so my car was the guinea pig, and Joe was SO confident in his abilities & knowledge of the corvette system when we originally started putting this together.
...but like Bret said, he spent 6 months alone on the KillerChiller. it worked for about a month & then the cabin A/C quit working... so I've had my car for just over a year in TX without cold air.
and with all the COVID crap, i've been unable to take my car back to him to fix - and now i'm moving across the country again in a couple days.

overall assessment: was good for a little bit but turned into the biggest waste of time & $$ (in addition to costing 3x more than the original install estimate because of all the custom stuff Bret had to come up with to make it work).

i'd either look at what Bret's cooked up after learning from my car or talk to the FI Interchiller guys from Australia.

 

Joe got Bret the first parts around Nov 2018... i didn't get my car back until Memorial Day 2019.

 

Glad I checked here first. The owner told me he had been building the systems for 20 years and I could expect IAT's 20°-50°F with 50+ HP gains.

 

yeah, he knows his stuff with 20yrs of mustang experience... but he just recently started branching out into Mopar & GM. my car was his first C5.

 

and talking to the Aussies, they've got a ton of stories where guys ripped out the KC kits for theirs.

 

and please don't get me wrong - i ain't bad-mouthing Joe by any means. he was more than helpful throughout the whole process and did a lot of back & forth trying to make things right.

it just didn't turn out as advertised, and now i'm in the hole a bunch of cash for a setup that worked for a month.

 

I agree after reviewing both companies I like the FI guys system a little better. I may wait until I upgrade to a YSI before I take that leap.

With that being said, I'd still like to get the most out of my current set up. Unbelievably, I cant find anything on A2W and ice tank systems that anyone has tried on the C5.

 

I have a2w on my P1x z06. There's a few threads on it, at 700whp pure 91 octane I trap 142 in terrible da and iat rise in 1/4 mile is ~10 degrees.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...d-results.html

 

thanks for the reply. I've looked at this system and I cant justify the cost vs. results. I understand it's a drop in system for the c5, but I feel the cost is way over inflated for what the system is and does. No disrespect.

 

No disrespect taken, it's not a cheap kit but it's the only one like it that can be purchased for the C5. The results only get better with a set up that is being pushed harder, no other is seeing these kind of results and track proven performance on 91 octane which was a large part of our goal. I didn't want meth or e85 and I wanted to see 140+ traps.
Unfortunately with my driving and 1.9-2.0 60fts on 18" toyo drags I've only ran a best of 10.5 lol

 

pretty much all the PD blowers (except some of the old MP magnusons) already use air-water intercoolers. not sure of the conversion options for centrifugals, though.
Bret built me a sweet reservoir that takes up every inch of room in the stock battery tray, which takes a lot longer to heat soak than the TVS's tiny tank that just sat on top of the battery.

another option would be to rig NO2 bars across your air-air IC, particularly if you're only looking at drag passes or short highway pulls.

 

N02 on the IC is an interesting concept. Especially since I already have nitrous on the car as well.
aactually I just saw the CRY02 kit. I wasnt even aware it existed. Much cheaper than n02 to operate.

 

It's actually a pretty good price point if you break it down this way. This works well if a guy is stock looking at doing a blower.

This breakdown includes only the components needed to achieve the above time. Cam, headers, fuel pump are not listed as that's a given on either combo.

Take an A&A kit to trap 142 in 3000+ DA with pump and meth for octane and to keep intake air temps down.
-Kit w/ TI head unit polished and race bypass and 8 rib conversion from innovators west $6780
-Radiator to keep it cool from dewitts lets use manual for example as it's the cheapest $619.99
-If you live in Az or any hot state you have to do fans $$639.99 for 17'' brushless setup (the one that actually works)
-Alky control dual nozzle meth kit $774
-5 gallon pail of meth $50 (this is also a recurring cost you will pay consistently as you will have to refill it, plus maintenance on a meth pump one a year $150)
Total: $8863.98

Air to water version stock cooling system works with this as nothing blocks the radiator just like OEM
A&A kit with no injectors, bap, intercooler, piping, or blow off valve $3566
8 rib kit from innovators west $1080
CPR bolt in air to water kit $4999.99
FIC 1000 CC injectors $680
$10,325.99

So for $1462.01 you have a car that doesn't need meth, can run a time in high da, not run hot. And have an intercooler that can support a lot more down the road should you turn it up. which most blower guys do lol. While I get it some guys won't see the value in it, and most slowly add parts to their build. IE do a blower kit, than a year later add meth, etc. Not everyone can do a full kit like this right away. But someone really looking at what it can do will see the value in it.

also to note this assumes doing the install yourself. Here is how it would breakdown at a shop labor wise (at least at mine)

Blower kit w/ 8 rib $1430
brushless fan wiring $115
Meth kit install $805
$2350

a2w variation
$1775

So if a shop is doing it plan on the gap being $887'ish now as every shop has different labor rates and times they want to quote obviously. The 8 rib adds time as every single time the power steering pulley from IW needs turned on the lathe to get to line up perfectly. For reference we are $115/hr

 

I think I've decided to with a cry02 water and nitrous IC sprayer set up on a timer. Might even do their fuel chiller while I'm at it.

I'll keep you guys updated.

 

back in the turbo buick days I build a jacket around the air to air intercooler end tanks that allowed me to circulate ice cold water and chill the intercooler core

it worked well at the drag strip as I could get the intercooler "pre cooled" The ford guys use the AC system to chill the fluid going through the intercooler bricks which seems cool

spraying nitrous or c02 on the core in motion works great but it's pricey to keep doing it

on the street a big air to air seems to still be the best approach. I did see a system with an air to air intercooler and a water air aftercooler that looked interesting if there wasn't too much of a pressure drop traversing two cores.

boostamuv

 

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