V3Ti mods?
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V3Ti mods?
I've read in places about upgrading the bearings to add rpm capability, and also about custom impellers to affect cfm as well as a custom fitment possibly being offered by Vortech themselves to all but eliminate gap between the impeller and housing.
Is there any one stop shopping for this? What are the real benefits for the expense? I'm trying to keep my build a street car that can put the hammer down without going up to a Ysi. Also trying to keep it self contained without comingling oil.
Food for thought.
Is there any one stop shopping for this? What are the real benefits for the expense? I'm trying to keep my build a street car that can put the hammer down without going up to a Ysi. Also trying to keep it self contained without comingling oil.
Food for thought.
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I'm going this route with a D1sc
Jon Bond makes a billet impeller that will take this blower up to 1500 cfm
he works on a variety of blowers and might have something for you
Jon Bond makes a billet impeller that will take this blower up to 1500 cfm
he works on a variety of blowers and might have something for you
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Was going to suggest the same.
https://www.jonbondperformance.com/p...m-paxton-1500/
I believe you can also send to vortech for an upgrade.
https://www.jonbondperformance.com/p...m-paxton-1500/
I believe you can also send to vortech for an upgrade.
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Good stuff. I had found 928 Motorsports, but they are almost non-existent currently due to lack of staffing and can't even respond or communicate effectively at present.
The impeller seems a common sense piece. Especially since I'm running a stroker and a 10% overdrive hub anyway.
What I'd like to learn is why the self-oiled units, even with upgraded bearings, say to stay at OEM rpm limits. I'd love to extend the rpm range. But I do not want to share common oil between the engine and blower if one goes. I don't see what having a shared feed would do to benefit the head unit and allow more rpm.
The impeller seems a common sense piece. Especially since I'm running a stroker and a 10% overdrive hub anyway.
What I'd like to learn is why the self-oiled units, even with upgraded bearings, say to stay at OEM rpm limits. I'd love to extend the rpm range. But I do not want to share common oil between the engine and blower if one goes. I don't see what having a shared feed would do to benefit the head unit and allow more rpm.
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Good stuff. I had found 928 Motorsports, but they are almost non-existent currently due to lack of staffing and can't even respond or communicate effectively at present.
The impeller seems a common sense piece. Especially since I'm running a stroker and a 10% overdrive hub anyway.
What I'd like to learn is why the self-oiled units, even with upgraded bearings, say to stay at OEM rpm limits. I'd love to extend the rpm range. But I do not want to share common oil between the engine and blower if one goes. I don't see what having a shared feed would do to benefit the head unit and allow more rpm.
The impeller seems a common sense piece. Especially since I'm running a stroker and a 10% overdrive hub anyway.
What I'd like to learn is why the self-oiled units, even with upgraded bearings, say to stay at OEM rpm limits. I'd love to extend the rpm range. But I do not want to share common oil between the engine and blower if one goes. I don't see what having a shared feed would do to benefit the head unit and allow more rpm.
turbos and other cent superchargers (like the rotex) offer different engineering.
With these blowers, size for the cfm and power you need and pulley to stay below the redline of the blower
your wallet will thank me later
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Good stuff. I had found 928 Motorsports, but they are almost non-existent currently due to lack of staffing and can't even respond or communicate effectively at present.
The impeller seems a common sense piece. Especially since I'm running a stroker and a 10% overdrive hub anyway.
What I'd like to learn is why the self-oiled units, even with upgraded bearings, say to stay at OEM rpm limits. I'd love to extend the rpm range. But I do not want to share common oil between the engine and blower if one goes. I don't see what having a shared feed would do to benefit the head unit and allow more rpm.
The impeller seems a common sense piece. Especially since I'm running a stroker and a 10% overdrive hub anyway.
What I'd like to learn is why the self-oiled units, even with upgraded bearings, say to stay at OEM rpm limits. I'd love to extend the rpm range. But I do not want to share common oil between the engine and blower if one goes. I don't see what having a shared feed would do to benefit the head unit and allow more rpm.
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I had my V2Si rebuilt by Vortech last month. I wanted them to upgrade the impeller and volute to make it closer to a Ti. Like you, I’m not ready for a Ysi. And I asked about ceramic bearings to get a little more speed out of it. They talked me out of it all. Ceramic bearings are hard but brittle and take out just about everything inside the blower if they fail (according to Vortech). And the cost to replace the impeller/volute was over $1k in addition to the $400 rebuild I already paid for. He recommended their exchange program and the deal he offered, it really wouldn’t make sense to upgrade my current one any further.
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upgrade vs buy new The durn procharger d1x is 1799, you can get a new d1x for around 3400
Jon Bond is more economical as the wheel and install will come in closer to 1k
If you are handy and have access to a press, the wheel is user installable to get costs down to around 600
AND, Jon will buy good used procharger wheels back.
I've looked at the videos, and it's really not that bad to do this job.
I'm a cheap b@st@rd and like to put more money into the mods, so that Jon Bond Billet wheel for the d1sc is looking good
Jon Bond is more economical as the wheel and install will come in closer to 1k
If you are handy and have access to a press, the wheel is user installable to get costs down to around 600
AND, Jon will buy good used procharger wheels back.
I've looked at the videos, and it's really not that bad to do this job.
I'm a cheap b@st@rd and like to put more money into the mods, so that Jon Bond Billet wheel for the d1sc is looking good
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I had a V3 Si upgraded to a billet Ti and heavy duty/high speed (not ceramic) bearings by Superchargersonline.com
It runs great. I upgraded from cast Si to billet Ti so I can't give you a comparison.
If you want the maximum without going to YSi that would be a V-1 billet Ti. You can spin a V-1 a lot faster than a V-2 or V-3.
It runs great. I upgraded from cast Si to billet Ti so I can't give you a comparison.
If you want the maximum without going to YSi that would be a V-1 billet Ti. You can spin a V-1 a lot faster than a V-2 or V-3.
Last edited by SteveJewels; Nov 26, 2022 at 11:08 AM.
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I had a V3 Si upgraded to a billet Ti and heavy duty/high speed (not ceramic) bearings by Superchargersonline.com
It runs great. I upgraded from cast Si to billet Ti so I can't give you a comparison.
If you want the maximum without going to YSi that would be a V-1 billet Ti. You can spin a V-1 a lot faster than a V-2 or V-3.
It runs great. I upgraded from cast Si to billet Ti so I can't give you a comparison.
If you want the maximum without going to YSi that would be a V-1 billet Ti. You can spin a V-1 a lot faster than a V-2 or V-3.
how much boost (psi ) or hp improvement did you see from the si to to ti billet and what do you think your impeller speed is