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No real results yet, still waiting on clutch break in and new laptop to show up for tuning (my last one ended up biting the dust after the cup holder incident :mad).
Non scientific results so far: It does seem to make the intercooler nice and chilly to the touch. Coolant temp also drops a good amount just after the spray since some of it makes it to those fins.
Hoping for detailed dyno, street, and track results within the next 3 weeks. I actually won't be using the sprayer at the track for safety reasons.
I'm just spraying plain old water right now (might try a little alky mix down the road). This is just a low budget experiment at this time. The N20 would be cool to try, but it would require a substantial investment. I thought about C02, but my intake is right there and that would not be good.
The trick with these things is to get the intercooler cooled down before the boost hits. Do a search on google and you will find lots of info about intercooler sprayer systems and other techniques.
What are the safety reasons? I thought these were designed for use at the track?
The issue is the possibility of the track getting wet. I honestly don't think this setup would cause any issues, since all the liquid goes up with the air and the solenoid eliminates any low pressure drip, but I'm not about to experiment with other peoples safety.
I think that hopped Mitsu Lancer comes with a sprayer from the factory. I wonder what the techs at the track tell them.
I first saw those about eight years ago on 3rd gen Rx7's. People were spraying water / alky, and few drag racers were spraying nitrous (raced in a class they couldn't put nitrous in the motor).
All the people I know that were using them have stopped.
I did some testing last night and today and it appears that the mist can drop IATs under normal driving conditions (no boost data yet). It was dropping it down about 5* today and it seemed be taking them a few degrees under the ambient temps. I was impressed. It did not have as much impact last night when the humidity was much higher.
I’m not saying that it will be enough to really make a difference, just that it definitely does lower the IATs some. There are multiple delays in the measurements I was doing, but it does seem like it takes about 15 – 30seconds to pass after mist before the temps drop. I also found it interesting that it would actually drop the temps at idle with the high speed fans on (I love the fact that I can now pull air over the intercooler and radiator at idle with a flip of a switch)
I've used these before ... at least ones I made. I almost got thrown off the track (1/4) for having them, due to condesation getting on the track. So I would just pack the IC with ice before my runs. I did use them a lot while road racing. But you need to do a 50/50 alochol mix or the stuff won't evaporate quick enough.
Good job :thumbs:
Just curious, I noticed the green and yellow lights by the boost gauge and the red light at the fuel pressure gauge, What are these for? :confused:
Good job :thumbs:
Just curious, I noticed the green and yellow lights by the boost gauge and the red light at the fuel pressure gauge, What are these for? :confused:
They are indicator lights for my water/alky injection system (in the throttle body, not the IC sprayer). yellow=pump on, green=pump pushing 60psi, red=low tank level, and there is another green that you can’t see in the pic near the fuel pressure gauge that is to indicate the system is armed.
It works great, and it helps me adjust the spray on point and verify that everything is working correctly.
It’s a great place for indicator lights since you can see them in your peripheral vision. I wish there was a way to hook up a knock light on our cars. That would be the perfect place for it.
I've read that water is about 25 times more effective at removing heat than air is. I guess that's why most race cars run air to water intercoolers. I've also heard it compared to trying to cool a hot pan by blowing on it with a fan or dipping it in ambient temperature water. The water cools the pan much more effectively and quickly no matter how cold or hard the air blows over it.
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Re: Intercooler sprayer installed (Formula)
I've read that water is about 25 times more effective at removing heat than air is. I guess that's why most race cars run air to water intercoolers. I've also heard it compared to trying to cool a hot pan by blowing on it with a fan or dipping it in ambient temperature water. The water cools the pan much more effectively and quickly no matter how cold or hard the air blows over it.
That's a BIG, BIG debate there...best to say both sides have their opinions :yesnod: BTW, how long does the water temp stay ambient in an intercooler? Just food for thought :cheers:
True the water will get warmer, but I think on air to water intercoolers there's another small radiator to cool the water circulated in the intercooler. Plus you can add ice on a lot of aftermarket systems to get a few minutes of really cold water. I'll keep dipping that hot pan in the same water and it will still cool much better and faster than putting it in front of a fan :smash: I think most people do an air to air because it's cheaper and has fewer parts like an electric water pump. radiator, plumbing etc.
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Re: Intercooler sprayer installed (Devil Dog)
Quick, I'm interested in your system myself. Do you think it's worth the time and effort? And can it be modified for a twin intercooler system or would I need to go to the single intercooler?
I'll be able to tell you if it is worth it in a few weeks. Looks like I will be on the dyno next weekend and then some steet testing will be done after that. I honestly don't expect much out of this. A high pressure c02 system would be the way to go, but it will add some weight to the car and will cost about 4-500.