$$$ per RWHP???
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Burning Brakes
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From: Sunny Earthquake Country, USA On the Left Coast (which is becoming more Right!)
$$$ per RWHP???
I'm curious! 
We FI guys,
Estimate your current RWHP (if you don't know it, guess). then subtract the stock rating (RWHP) to get your added hp.
Then estimate all costs, (not suspension/bling) parts, labor (use $75/hr for your labor), include things you tried that you were not satisfied with that you replaced, i.e. I'm on my 3rd cam, 3rd blower, 2nd shortblock, etc., and divide the total cost by the added hp.
Be honest
I'm currently at about $211/hp! :shocked:
Roy
Kinda makes me think how important it is to do it right the 1st time! :bb
But the help I'm getting from my new tuner, Andy, will gradually average this down. Us exMMS customers will be at the top of the cost pyramid!
[Modified by 7.0sc SuperVette, 11:07 PM 6/7/2004]
We FI guys,
Estimate your current RWHP (if you don't know it, guess). then subtract the stock rating (RWHP) to get your added hp.
Then estimate all costs, (not suspension/bling) parts, labor (use $75/hr for your labor), include things you tried that you were not satisfied with that you replaced, i.e. I'm on my 3rd cam, 3rd blower, 2nd shortblock, etc., and divide the total cost by the added hp.
Be honest
I'm currently at about $211/hp! :shocked:
Roy
Kinda makes me think how important it is to do it right the 1st time! :bb
But the help I'm getting from my new tuner, Andy, will gradually average this down. Us exMMS customers will be at the top of the cost pyramid!
[Modified by 7.0sc SuperVette, 11:07 PM 6/7/2004]
Melting Slicks
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Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (7.0sc SuperVette)
$7,000 and 200+ hp gains = $35/hp
EDIT: 18 mpg to boot
Pretty cost effective when you consider what you get for the LSX FAST intake or VARARAM or other silly add-ons.
Lovin every minute of it.
[Modified by drcoffee, 7:45 AM 6/8/2004]
EDIT: 18 mpg to boot
Pretty cost effective when you consider what you get for the LSX FAST intake or VARARAM or other silly add-ons.
Lovin every minute of it.
[Modified by drcoffee, 7:45 AM 6/8/2004]
Pro
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From: Sacramento
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (7.0sc SuperVette)
I am @ around $90 per. One thing to make note of, I think you will see that once someone gets over 450RWHP the $ per HP will start to increase almost exponentially. That first 100 hp is pretty cheap. from there things head North quickly.
Safety Car
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St. Jude Donor '06
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (drcoffee)
Hey he said no BLING cost, we all know that is what the Tiger Shark is 
"mine was $78.23 per rwhp. Why did you make me do that!!!! "
No cheating now. Be honest and add the cost of the tigershark nose.
[Modified by drcoffee, 9:38 AM 6/8/2004]
No cheating now. Be honest and add the cost of the tigershark nose.
[Modified by drcoffee, 9:38 AM 6/8/2004]
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Melting Slicks
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Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (drcoffee)
Man, I'm doing great compared to you guys. $27/hp (I tried to estimate high)
But I have no labor, since I have done all the work myself. If I added in 75$/hr for all my time working on it and researching solutions, I would probably be at about $1000/hp
Do you have to add in the cost of body damage caused by having too much power That would also jack my numbers up.
But I have no labor, since I have done all the work myself. If I added in 75$/hr for all my time working on it and researching solutions, I would probably be at about $1000/hp
Do you have to add in the cost of body damage caused by having too much power
That would also jack my numbers up.
Melting Slicks
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From: Fountain Inn, South Carolina
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (vetterdstr)
Now someone needs to capture what type of mods... NA, Magna, Vortex, NOS, TTi... ect A4, manual... wheres the long term bang for the buck?
Future mod estimate looks like $94. TTi, A4 FLP level V, Convertor, forged motor, heads, intake, exhaust, wheel & tire, gauges... Just a quick guess.
Cost avoided & Benifits: Retain good gas milage, no header purchase, no refill of bottle (NOS), 100% daliy driven streetable, tolerable noise level, limited vibration... ect...
Future mod estimate looks like $94. TTi, A4 FLP level V, Convertor, forged motor, heads, intake, exhaust, wheel & tire, gauges... Just a quick guess.
Cost avoided & Benifits: Retain good gas milage, no header purchase, no refill of bottle (NOS), 100% daliy driven streetable, tolerable noise level, limited vibration... ect...
Safety Car
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Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (7.0sc SuperVette)
MMS Messed Up My Friends 383 Trans Am Big Time... The Direct Port NItrous System Was Installed Incorrectly the nitrous nozzles were in the way of the injectors causing dieseling, they ruined his fuel cell, welded the braces for his 12 bolt posi unevenly etc. etc. etc. He's invested About 30k on this car, and just recently got it running thanks to Vette Shop in San diego. . . Morgan Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '03-'06-'07-'08
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (19_with_blk_coupe)
To get to 700 RWHP excluding a roll cage and automatic tranny conversion from a M6 - I get about $75. The trouble is all the other stuff!
NCM, WSCC & SCC Member
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Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (7.0sc SuperVette)
Don't ask. Third motor. Probably close to you. It would have been FAR cheaper to ship the car to Lingenfelter, Andy or Doug Rippie. That is what I am doing with the next two Zees.
About the same price as my new 600sl on order.+
Less expensive than the 575M Ferrari.
Does not even compare to the offshore boat. We don't even read the bill. It's just wrong.
Stupid male bad habits.
About the same price as my new 600sl on order.+
Less expensive than the 575M Ferrari.
Does not even compare to the offshore boat. We don't even read the bill. It's just wrong.
Stupid male bad habits.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Sunny Earthquake Country, USA On the Left Coast (which is becoming more Right!)
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (7.0sc SuperVette)
Thanks guys...
Keep em coming, it's a good thing to think about-kinda like going to a free shrink for our sickness.
And soon we will have a good sense of the actual cost of what we are doing-which obviously most of us do not want to address-I know I don't!
So far I'm the WINNER at over $200/hp!
Wow, at being a loser, I'm the winner! What a distinction! Well at least I do something good!!!
Thanks,
Roy
[Modified by 7.0sc SuperVette, 1:39 PM 6/9/2004]
Keep em coming, it's a good thing to think about-kinda like going to a free shrink for our sickness.
And soon we will have a good sense of the actual cost of what we are doing-which obviously most of us do not want to address-I know I don't!
So far I'm the WINNER at over $200/hp!
Wow, at being a loser, I'm the winner! What a distinction! Well at least I do something good!!!
Thanks,
Roy
[Modified by 7.0sc SuperVette, 1:39 PM 6/9/2004]
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Burning Brakes
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From: Sunny Earthquake Country, USA On the Left Coast (which is becoming more Right!)
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (7.0sc SuperVette)
Well so far-based on small sample size-it looks like we are paying $75-$100/HP.
Roy
Roy
Melting Slicks
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From: Fountain Inn, South Carolina
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (Terry Burger)
$19.90/hp here for 520rwhp (started with 310rwhp). It pays to do the work yourself on weekends and buy used parts... 
Of course some of us are just getting started and have not had to replace broke parts yet
Burning Brakes
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From: Simi Valley CA
Re: $$$ per RWHP??? (George8211)
Do It Yourself is a great way to go... We were adding $75 per hour for our own time... to get a feel for what standand pricing for performance up grades would be. Sounds like you did good for yourself.
Good point on not having to fix much yet though...