Bigger Mag???
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Racer
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Bigger Mag???
Heard something a while back that Magnusson is going to be coming out with a bigger/more improved Maggie. Anybody heard anything else on this?????? Is it balogne or true?????
Racer
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From: bowie md
Originally Posted by Black01Z
Heard something a while back that Magnusson is going to be coming out with a bigger/more improved Maggie. Anybody heard anything else on this?????? Is it balogne or true?????
I think this is true, but not much bigger.
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From: bowie md
Originally Posted by vettewreck
the current Mag is 112ci, the next version will be a 122 so not much bigger buy hey, its still bigger than what we got now. Heard it comes out in January.
I wonder how much the upgrade will be?
Melting Slicks
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if you have a stock block, non forged, why would a bigger one be better? Would the intake charge be cooler? I am plenty happy with my 5-6 psi boost and hope it lives long and happy ...but I do like the thought of more power
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From: bowie md
Originally Posted by wrustywrench
if you have a stock block, non forged, why would a bigger one be better? Would the intake charge be cooler? I am plenty happy with my 5-6 psi boost and hope it lives long and happy ...but I do like the thought of more power
I beleive it will lower IAT's given same amount of boost.
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Drifting
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Originally Posted by wrustywrench
if you have a stock block, non forged, why would a bigger one be better? Would the intake charge be cooler? I am plenty happy with my 5-6 psi boost and hope it lives long and happy ...but I do like the thought of more power
Between calibration and blower improvements, the 2004+ Series III 3.8L in the Grand Prix makes 260hp on premium, can run on regular, and makes 9 psi peak boost. One would imagine the added boost means more heat that would inevitably mean detonation at low rpms on regular fuel since it's non-intercooled (beyond the correctability of calibration, i.e., hovering too close too ignition miss or running too rich). But blower improvements somehow counter the added heat of compression.
So if Mag's 122 cid incorporates internal improvements, it may be worthwhile for even stock shortblock folks if intercooling is used.
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by Black01Z
Heard something a while back that Magnusson is going to be coming out with a bigger/more improved Maggie. Anybody heard anything else on this?????? Is it balogne or true?????
After reading this post I called a friend of mine a Magnusun. The larger displacement SC is to come out for the C6 only. There are several improvements that need to be made since the C6 has a higher compression ratio than the C5. So the good new... C6 owners should be able to get a Mag with larger displacement, 10 Cubes, that will be more efficient.
Bad news... us C5 guys have the current model and that is about it.
Although a high performance Mag is expected out sometime late next year, it will not come in a kit and is to be for "offroad use only". 
Burning Brakes
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From: Tattood up and broke as F**K nc
Originally Posted by XotiK ZO6
Although a high performance Mag is expected out sometime late next year, it will not come in a kit and is to be for "offroad use only".
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Racer
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BLAST!!!!! Why cant we have a roots or twin screw blower like the snakes????!!!! If someone made one capable of 600rwhp, with all that torque as well, i'd be all over it like a dog on a bone!
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Originally Posted by XotiK ZO6
After reading this post I called a friend of mine a Magnusun. The larger displacement SC is to come out for the C6 only. There are several improvements that need to be made since the C6 has a higher compression ratio than the C5. So the good new... C6 owners should be able to get a Mag with larger displacement, 10 Cubes, that will be more efficient.
Bad news... us C5 guys have the current model and that is about it. Although a high performance Mag is expected out sometime late next year, it will not come in a kit and is to be for "offroad use only".
Bad news... us C5 guys have the current model and that is about it.
Although a high performance Mag is expected out sometime late next year, it will not come in a kit and is to be for "offroad use only". Now the real news:
There are not any plans for a 122 supercharger for ANY of the Corvette applications. The 112 is MORE than enough for any stock LS1 motor to handle, and more than acceptable for any larger cubic inch LS1 if calibrated properly. Don’t be fooled by the rumor mill, I know for a fact that there are NO PLANS for a 122 supercharger for the C5/C6 application. I have seen a LPE 427 with a Magnuson 112 make in access of 600 rwhp....I think that is more than most could handle on the street!
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From: bowie md
Originally Posted by blownchevy
Now the real news:
There are not any plans for a 122 supercharger for ANY of the Corvette applications. The 112 is MORE than enough for any stock LS1 motor to handle, and more than acceptable for any larger cubic inch LS1 if calibrated properly. Don’t be fooled by the rumor mill, I know for a fact that there are NO PLANS for a 122 supercharger for the C5/C6 application. I have seen a LPE 427 with a Magnuson 112 make in access of 600 rwhp....I think that is more than most could handle on the street!
It's because of this philosophy that Magnacharger is going to lose ALOT of business in the very near future. You snooze, you lose.
Last edited by c5_from_jc; Oct 11, 2004 at 09:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by c5_from_jc
You heard something different than I did, buf if what you heard is true.....
It's because of this philosophy that Magnacharger is going to lose ALOT of business in the very near future. You snooze, you lose.
It's because of this philosophy that Magnacharger is going to lose ALOT of business in the very near future. You snooze, you lose.
What is that supposed to mean?
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From: North York Ontario
Originally Posted by vettewreck
yeah but headers are "off-road" use only also...
Racer
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From: bowie md
Originally Posted by auctiondepot
Magnuson was never able to get an approval for the original Magnacharger on the C5 LS1 and we all thought they would. It turned out that the original intake manifold cant pass a California restart test. At least that's what I heard.
why would the intake manifold matter??
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intake manifold heat
Originally Posted by c5_from_jc
why would the intake manifold matter??
Upon restart the heated air in the intake manifold wont let the AFR adjust quick enough to pass the test, once going the intake is cooled by fresh air and operates per spec.
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My Regal GS has a Maggie M90 on it from the factory. The intake manifold had a 2x2 square right under the supercharger outlet where coolant flows through. It's to heat up the intake charge on start up. Must do wonders for my IAT's. 