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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Default Alky Injection On A TT Setup?

This seems like a real elegant way to use alky injection for more power on a TT setup. Any reason this won't work?

1. Tune the car for your maximum boost you want to run on pump gas. Let's say it's 10psi (forged motor... hehe) and no alky.
2. Setup your alky system to come on just above 10psi. If it's really granular you might be able to set it for 10.3psi for example. Just basically dial it so that on your regular pump gas tune with regular boost, the alky will never come on.
3. Set your "overboost" setting on your boost controller for target "race" boost -- let's say it's 14psi.
4. Tune the nozzle or pump for desired alky output. This should be a relatively static output of alky as the alky only has to compensate for the difference between your base boost on your base tune and race boost on your base tune.

Dunno, may not work, but it seems like a great way to be able to tool around town without worrying about your alky level, but still be able to take advantage of alky injection and not worry about running race gas or in-tank octane boosters. You could also get away with running a smaller reservoir in a different location rather than use your wiper fluid tank, since you'll (theoretically) not use the race tune all the time and thus wouldn't need a bunch of alky reserve. I've been tinkering with the thought of running a reservoir in the driver side fender area...

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Sounds right. Just do it downstream of the compressor.

Supra guys are using methanol injection to give them 98 octane-equivalent performance.
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alky is the way to go if you want to go to high boost #'s
Do you remember Rob Raymer who boosted the heck out of a stock LS1 (firebird) and was doing it safely due to the alky. Of course he did like 200+ dyno runs with it to get it perfect. Too bad he doesn't have a web presence anymore, his site was pretty cool detailing the history of the naughtyness they did to that car.
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Originally Posted by diynoob
This seems like a real elegant way to use alky injection for more power on a TT setup. Any reason this won't work?

1. Tune the car for your maximum boost you want to run on pump gas. Let's say it's 10psi (forged motor... hehe) and no alky.
2. Setup your alky system to come on just above 10psi. If it's really granular you might be able to set it for 10.3psi for example. Just basically dial it so that on your regular pump gas tune with regular boost, the alky will never come on.
3. Set your "overboost" setting on your boost controller for target "race" boost -- let's say it's 14psi.
4. Tune the nozzle or pump for desired alky output. This should be a relatively static output of alky as the alky only has to compensate for the difference between your base boost on your base tune and race boost on your base tune.

Dunno, may not work, but it seems like a great way to be able to tool around town without worrying about your alky level, but still be able to take advantage of alky injection and not worry about running race gas or in-tank octane boosters. You could also get away with running a smaller reservoir in a different location rather than use your wiper fluid tank, since you'll (theoretically) not use the race tune all the time and thus wouldn't need a bunch of alky reserve. I've been tinkering with the thought of running a reservoir in the driver side fender area...

Thoughts/comments?

Tony,
The alky kit we use was designed for a turbo, boost is boost as far as the alky is conserned. It can easily be tuned to turn on at what ever boost level you choose. We have finished our stand alone tank, I will be posting pictures very soon. It is a stainless steel tank that mounts in the battery hold down, putting the battery in the trunk. Good luck with your new set up.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Tony,
The alky kit we use was designed for a turbo, boost is boost as far as the alky is conserned. It can easily be tuned to turn on at what ever boost level you choose. We have finished our stand alone tank, I will be posting pictures very soon. It is a stainless steel tank that mounts in the battery hold down, putting the battery in the trunk. Good luck with your new set up.

Doug - could you please supply us with some more info - such as what power level you've currently got the system on? How much power increase can you expect? Have you run it on a turbo system yet? This sounds like a really cool way of adding some serious insurance against detonation. Will the kit be similarly priced to the one for the supercharger guys? Thanks alot for the info!
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Doug - could you please supply us with some more info - such as what power level you've currently got the system on? How much power increase can you expect? Have you run it on a turbo system yet? This sounds like a really cool way of adding some serious insurance against detonation. Will the kit be similarly priced to the one for the supercharger guys? Thanks alot for the info!
It is the same kit for s/c and turbos, so naturally the $ is the same, $550 + ship. These kits were origanally designed for turbo applications so there is actually alot more out there on turbo cars than s/c cars. I have used the kit on mild to wild cars including my own vehicle, wich presently makes enough power that I cannot hold it to the dyno. I am running a 427 with an F2 @ 20+ lbs of boost. Still retainig stock fuel lines and rails. It's cheap insurance and no need for race gas.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
It is the same kit for s/c and turbos, so naturally the $ is the same, $550 + ship. These kits were origanally designed for turbo applications so there is actually alot more out there on turbo cars than s/c cars. I have used the kit on mild to wild cars including my own vehicle, wich presently makes enough power that I cannot hold it to the dyno. I am running a 427 with an F2 @ 20+ lbs of boost. Still retainig stock fuel lines and rails. It's cheap insurance and no need for race gas.

Awesome Doug - thanks for the response! I remember a thread showing the install - I'll have to do a search and find it - is this a simple install to complete on your own, or am I wise to have a shop like yours do the install? I won't likely be able to make it to your shop as I'm in Canada, but I could have another tuner do it, unless you think your average shade-tree mechanic can handle it. Looking forward to seeing the pics of the tank! If you know the thread where it was outlined about the install, please post it! I'll do so as well, if I find it!

Thanks again,



Here it is : http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=947521

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I'm waiting to find the first person that can run 20 PSI turn it down to 10 PSI

Get a Greddy profecB specII boost controller that has two settings.. high and blow your mind boost

Staged... octane.. way way higher. Here a link to displace the 98 octane theory.

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