Thinking to add a boost cooler system to my Vortech S/C kit.
Were should the nozzle be located for best performance?
Anyone that done similar installation on a Vortech S/C kit. please step in
Pic could be very helpful.
/Erik

 

I believe the booster controlers are only for Turbos..............I might be wrong.

 

Give more information on the boost cooler. I would like to see the site where you purchased it. Thanks.

 

Well a boost controller is for a turbo...SC boost is controlled by the pulley. But he says a boost cooler. That is sort of new? Are you talking an injection system like alky?

 

Erra, are you refering to Snow's water/meth injection system? If so good choice, generally placed near TB and away from the MAF. Depends on how your system is configured and type of airbridge you are using

 

Yes, that´s the system I was talking about http://www.snowperformance.net/prodd...p?prod=auto010

I´ve just received a e-mail from Matt on Snow Performance, he recommend to mount the nozzle at the discharge of the afterooler and aim it slightly towards the direction of the air flow. Of course he also recommend a stage-2 kit. But I rather spend 100 dollar more on a stage 2 kit if a corvette forum member convinse me.

 

Most of us on Team ZR-1.com are running stage 2 kits with the 140psi pump. Snow also makes a 240psi pump too, I believe. Check out the web site and projects area, there is a write up about the WI. The good news is Snow is working on a frequency MAF electronic controller which will be the best for us boosted guys. We should be testing it soon. It's made a big difference in my situation not to mention the JR t
une.
BTW nice looking set up!

 

I'm starting with a Stage I - Alky Systems kit. Nozzle in same location. Not sure if we'll be able to aim the nozzle or not. I'll be using the flat side towards the motor and not the top of the aftercooler neck.

 

it would be nice to have a boost controler on a S/C system and not that hard to do ( )

you could use something like a turbos external waestgate. this could be conected to a electronic boost controler that will let you run difrent amounts of boost. with a standalone ECU you could then build in diffrent fuel maps depending on what boost you wanted to run! so when at the track you could turn the boost up like the turbo guys do, burt you wouldn't get any lag!

than only problem that i could see apart from finding and maching the parts is that the waestgate may fluctuate the boost presure to much (ie not operating fast enough to hold a "steady" boost).

what you lot think? could it work?

Chris.

PS. sorry for the hyjack.

 

yeah i know you wouldn't beable to make the supercharger spin any faster and thats not the point of what i was saying! it was to be able to "turn down the boost" when its not needed! that way you can set the car to run at a track or for fast use on the road (ie run a small S/C pully that will make loads of boost) and then use the waestgate to vent some of that boost when you are running around in town. oyu could even "turn off" the supercharger if you could fig the vent to stay open! the other idea was to creat a sort of belt driven turbo idea. if you could mount a over sized S/C on there, and spin in fast, you would be making good boost at low rpm, then you would just bleed off the unwated presure at the higher ropm range. this way you could have a constant, say 14.5psi, from 4K to the red line. and the engine would only have to be built to take that psi, not the XXpsi you would be developing without the controler. and it would pull just as hard in the mid range. just trying to get the best of both worlds.

the verable drive thing is a good idea, but VERY complicated. Audi offer a transmition that constantly adjust and F1 teams used a similer thing (though without rubber bands) until they where band. but i think this "veriable drive" would be too big and cumbersome for a S/C install.

thanks Chris.

PS. cars have been around for a lot longer than that, but we still keep developing them

 

Keep us posted Erra. Put up some pics once you get your set up installed. My car is at Dynotech right now getting the T-trim upgrade and a set of AFR duel spring heads. A boost cooler might be my next mod. How tough would it be to install?

 

I be back with some pic of the boost cooler installation, think it's gona take me a few weeks to get started.
First I'm going to mod. my Blackwing with a cover over it, cut a large hole underneath, a scoop are then going to be made to force cold air in. In the end I hope it would work pretty much like a "vortex cold air intake"

 

Is this the place you referring to ?

 

Don't forget about this under there:



I had a "Vortex" on my car before the blower. I guess it would still work, but the charge cooler radiator will be in front of the intake.

"Halltech" makes this thing if you live in a state that doesn't require a front plate, or even if they do.

 

Z06 Tom, you making a good point and "halltech" may do the trick. But I don't think S/C are in need of "ram air effect". Cold air is what S/C need. I'm going to make two small rails on both side to lead cold air in to a scoop under the Blackwing.

 

i understand both turbocharging and suoercharging. what i was trying to do was limit the time when the S/C is not running at the maxium presure for the engine. ie the time when its makeing only 2psi when the engine can take say 14psi! turbos dont have this problem, as thier speed is govened by the presure in the inlet manifold (which is ducted to the waestgate actuator) and thus their speed has no direct (ie. belt) concettion to the engine.

thinking about this at the week end, i thought about the idea of mounting a second throtle bodty infront of the S/C to act as a restriction. this could be presure activated to start to close as the presure recached a predetermined amout, and thus hold the S/C back.

i understand that both of these ideas will be waesting energy, but my idea is to bump up the middle of the power and torque curves, not so much the top end, it not so much of a problem. this would result in a bigger area under the curves and thus a more potent car in real life!

thanks Chris.

 

I use a Vararam with My SC...It works out geat, is not in the way, and makes good power....that might be the way to go....

 

When I had my Vararam my tuner made a pull on the dyno without the filter and my car made 11 more horsepower. Next time you are on the dyno I suggest you do the same. I pulled that Vararam off and installed a Blackwing.

 

Close, but more towards the Throttle Body.
After clearing the last pulley towards the 90* Blue Elbow. Right before the blue elbow on the same side your arrow points to.

Will be drilling this week.
Can email you a picture of the location, just need your email address.

 

It would be great if you could send me some pic, and a short information how the drilling and installation turned out for you

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