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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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I just replaced the dual filament bulb on both sides due to the fast blinking I was getting when I tried to use the turn signal. No more than a few days later they both blink fast and low and behold, their both out now. I dont' have DRL's or turn signals. Are the DRL's and turn signals the same bulb? Is it possible that they could both go out at the same time like that right after replacing them? Is there a common fix for this problem that I don't know about?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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I read something about a problematic hazard relay. Could this be the problem?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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They should be the same bulb, 4157A (amber). Not sure whats causing both sides and both functions to go bad at the same time.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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I just replaced the dual filament bulb on both sides due to the fast blinking I was getting when I tried to use the turn signal. No more than a few days later they both blink fast and low and behold, their both out now. I dont' have DRL's or turn signals. Are the DRL's and turn signals the same bulb? Is it possible that they could both go out at the same time like that right after replacing them? Is there a common fix for this problem that I don't know about?
Yes, the DRL's are also the turn signals. Most common problem is moisture getting into the housings and popping the bulbs. The design puts the bulb in close proximity to the housing and many times you will find a hole melted in the plastic directly over the bulb, letting moisture in. Take the time to remove your housings and you will see what I mean. I replaced my housings but not before I cut a small piece of heat resistant material (ThermoTec) and inserted it into the hole directly above where the bulb is. The material has an adhesive on one side of it and it is thin enough to not be in constant contact with the bulb. Problem solved. HTH

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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I do remember seeing a crack on the left side housing Well that sucks. So how easy is it to remove the whole DRL housing? Can everything required for removal be accessed just as easily as when I removed the bulb? Thanks for your help.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information.
Remove the front fascia lower closeout panel. Refer to Close Out Panel - Front Bumper Fascia Lower in Bumpers.
Release the brake caliper cooling duct from the front fascia, then reposition the duct.
Disconnect the front fog lamp electrical connector.
Remove the front fog lamp mounting bolt.
Remove the lamp from the vehicle.
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Position the front fog lamp to the front bumper impact bar. Insert the fog lamp bracket alignment tab into the hole on the front bumper impact bar.
Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.
Install the front fog lamp mounting bolt.
Tighten
Tighten the front fog lamp mounting bolt to 1.9 N·m (17 lb in).
Connect the front fog lamp electrical connector.
Position the brake caliper cooling duct to the front fascia, then push to secure.
Install the front fascia lower closeout panel. Refer to Close Out Panel - Front Bumper Fascia Lower in Bumpers.
Lower the vehicle.
Verify that the front fog lamps are aimed properly. Refer to Fog Lamp Aiming Procedure .
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Wow! Thanks for all the information, I'll do that and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by WhiteC5Vette
Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information.
Remove the front fascia lower closeout panel. Refer to Close Out Panel - Front Bumper Fascia Lower in Bumpers.
Release the brake caliper cooling duct from the front fascia, then reposition the duct.
Disconnect the front fog lamp electrical connector.
Remove the front fog lamp mounting bolt.
Remove the lamp from the vehicle.
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nstallation Procedure
Position the front fog lamp to the front bumper impact bar. Insert the fog lamp bracket alignment tab into the hole on the front bumper impact bar.
Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.
Install the front fog lamp mounting bolt.
Tighten
Tighten the front fog lamp mounting bolt to 1.9 N·m (17 lb in).
Connect the front fog lamp electrical connector.
Position the brake caliper cooling duct to the front fascia, then push to secure.
Install the front fascia lower closeout panel. Refer to Close Out Panel - Front Bumper Fascia Lower in Bumpers.
Lower the vehicle.
Verify that the front fog lamps are aimed properly. Refer to Fog Lamp Aiming Procedure .
I think 3C2 needs to remove the turn signal housing, not the fog lights.
3C2: If memory serves, I think you will need a 10mm socket for the nuts that retain the housing. Note the spring that also retains the housing and it's position, before you disassemble. It's actually a two piece affair (bracket and housing) It's not hard to do any of this, it's just a bit tedious. Once you get everything out, you will see what I mean about the DRL/Turn Signal and it's location inside the housing. HTH

Robert
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
I think 3C2 needs to remove the turn signal housing, not the fog lights.
3C2: If memory serves, I think you will need a 10mm socket for the nuts that retain the housing. Note the spring that also retains the housing and it's position, before you disassemble. It's actually a two piece affair (bracket and housing) It's not hard to do any of this, it's just a bit tedious. Once you get everything out, you will see what I mean about the DRL/Turn Signal and it's location inside the housing. HTH

Robert
Aren't they the same? Guess I have to learn how to read.
Sorry 3C2, and thanks Robert.
Here is the correct procedure:
Raise and support the vehicle. Remove the front fascia lower closeout panel. Release the brake caliper cooling duct from the front fascia, and position the duct aside.
Remove the front turn signal lamp bracket retaining spring from the lamp bracket.
Remove the lamp bracket retaining spring from the front fascia.
Remove the front turn signal lamp bracket retaining screws.
Disconnect the sockets from the lamp.
Remove the lamp, with the bracket, from the vehicle.
Remove the lamp to bracket retaining screws.
Remove the lamp from the bracket.

Installation Procedure
Install the front park/turn signal and sidemarker lamp into position on the front turn signal lamp bracket.
Install the front park/turn signal and sidemarker lamp to bracket retaining screws.
Tighten
Tighten the front park/turn signal and sidemarker lamp to bracket retaining screws to 2 N·m (18 lb in).
Install the sockets to the lamp.
Install the lamp, with the bracket, to the front fascia.
Align the lamp to the opening in the front fascia and hold the lamp firmly in place against the fascia, while installing the front turn signal lamp bracket retaining screws.
Tighten
Tighten the front turn signal lamp bracket retaining screws to 3 N·m (27 lb in).
Install the lamp bracket retaining spring to the front fascia.
Install the front turn signal lamp bracket retaining spring to the lamp bracket.
Position the brake caliper cooling duct to the front fascia and press the duct toward the fascia to secure.
Install the front fascia lower closeout panel.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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No problemo! Hey I've done the same thing before when I get to reading a post too fast.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Good thing you guys said something before the weekend I just assumed that it's all around the same place so it wouldn't be that difficult to do the work (foglights, DRL's all in the bumper, hehe). Thanks everyone for all the help. I'll make another post when I actually fix this problem just in case someone needs to reference it in the future.
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