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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lvvette777
Yep, hold your t/c button down for 5 seconds and it will give you the "competition mode" on the DIC.

I only drive in comp mode anymore, I don't like the traction control but the a/h is AWESOME!!!!!
I like comp mode the best cause its lets you swing the back around just a little but doesn't let things get too outta control (for my driving ability). I can also drive the car hard and set it off to correct me a bit but it doesn't try to control the car as much and so I can do more than I should be able to without risk of completely losing it... I think that its eating up my brakes though...
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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It's saved my dumb A$$ a few times - thanks Dave Hill!
mine too
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lvvette777
Yep, hold your t/c button down for 5 seconds and it will give you the "competition mode" on the DIC.

I only drive in comp mode anymore, I don't like the traction control but the a/h is AWESOME!!!!!
I've gotta question. But first let me explain, what you'd wanna know, before you ans. My car is a 99, A4, 2.73, All stock. Its has the basic suspension (NO FE45, Z51). It has a button on the Console that says "Active Handeling". When I turn it Off, in the DIC, it says, "Acct Handeling/TC Off". Same thing when I turn it On. So, I guess my car does have the Active Handeling & TC, both. Yesterday, I was driving in the residencial streets near my house, going about 30-45 mph, making sharp tuns...Going from a complete stop to stepping on the gas, and making the turn same time. In the DIC, it says, Active Handeling...sometimes it would flash Traction Control, sometimes it would flash AH & TC, both. But sometimes it flashed ONLY AH, or TC. Point to realize is that, though my car is older (99 C5), it has both, OR SO I THINK...

Now that its established I have AH and TC, I can't seem to go into the Competetion mode. I've tried doing the 5 second, 10 second press on the button thing. But no change... I don't get that "Competion Mode" message in the DIC. What am I doing wrong ?????????????? Plz help!

Thanks in advance to everyone and this forum...

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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lvvette777
Yep, hold your t/c button down for 5 seconds and it will give you the "competition mode" on the DIC.

I only drive in comp mode anymore, I don't like the traction control but the a/h is AWESOME!!!!!
The only problem is that the DIC will only display Comp Mode when it's engaged. I like to be able to monitor my oil temps but can't when in comp.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
Now that its established I have AH and TC, I can't seem to go into the Competetion mode. I've tried doing the 5 second, 10 second press on the button thing. But no change... I don't get that "Competion Mode" message in the DIC. What am I doing wrong ?????????????? Plz help!

Thanks in advance to everyone and this forum...
Your car has the 1st generation active handling. In order to enable the Competitive Driving Mode with the 1st gen AH, the car must first be brought to a complete stop with the engine running. After coming to a complete stop, press and hold the AH button until "Competitive Driving" appears in the DIC. If after trying the above you still cannot enable the Competitve Driving Mode, then you need to have your system checked if you are sure your car is equipped with AH.

The 2nd Generation AH was introduced in model year 2001. With 2nd gen AH, the Competitve Driving Mode can be enabled while the car is moving.

For either generation of AH, when you switch the ignition to off, the system will revert back to the default setting of TC/AH both on.

Hope this helps and good luck.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
In the DIC, it says, Active Handeling...sometimes it would flash Traction Control, sometimes it would flash AH & TC, both. But sometimes it flashed ONLY AH, or TC.
To my understanding, the traction control corrects for too much rear wheel spin by either reducing the engine power or applying the rear brakes or both. Active handling corrects the situation of under- or overstearing. In fact, one may thing of situations where either TC or AH are switched on or both at the same time.

Originally Posted by AZC5
I dont like it, and turn it off all together when driving hard.

When I expect the car to do something(get sideways around a hard corner, etc.) and AH/TC kicks in and stops it from doing what I expected it to do, it can be more frightening than the actual controlled loss of traction. Sometimes you need that controlled loss of traction to balance the car during aggressive driving. Sometimes drifting through a corner is the fastest way through that corner, AH/TC doesn't like that.

I think better drivers may find it a hinderance to performance driving. On the other hand, less experienced drivers and drivers of all skill levels can benefit from the systems during poor weather/driving conditions.

I guess it has it strengths and weaknesses. All I can say is that I am glad it is switchable.


AZC5

P.S. My first vette did not have AH or TC, I learned how to drive hard without them. Maybe thats why I dont care for them too much.
My opinion is that our cars tend to overstear (i.e. breaking out of the rear in curves) that much that driving them entirely without TC or AH would be simply dangerious, especially with the A4 & performance axle on wet roads. The tendency of the rear to break out could be the price one has to pay for excellent handling. The older models where perhaps less prone to overstearing.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Took my brother for a ride yesterday. Shut off AH so I could remind him what tire smoke smells like. Didn't go to competitive mode, big mistake. (new car to me and crappy skills). Dropped the clutch in first, all is good, smoke boiling up Hit 2nd and all hell breaks loose backend comes around, turn into it and it goes the other way. I go a couple more seconds of this back and forth and decide to shut her down. Save the car and what little self respect I have left. I like Active Handleling!
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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I'm still confused by the comp mode and A/H settings. Here's my question... If I hold the A/H button down on my 00 vert for about 5 seconds when stationary, the comp mode display comes on which is correct but is the A/Handling still working cos if I hit the button a second time isn't that just switching off the comp mode again? I think basically what I want is comp driving mode with active handling working.
So here's the questions once again;
1. How to get comp driving mode with A/H operational.
2. How to get comp driving mode with A/H switched off too.(Xtra fun)

I have the handbook but it still doesn't make it clear...well not to me anyway.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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My experiences occured while autocrossing. If you get out of shape with Active handling turned on, it shuts down the car and gives you the time to collect it. However, it really shuts down the engine and it kills your time. (as if you were going to have a decent time with active handling going active) With AH off, you can spin her like a top. That is when you get to try out the anti lock brakes. (They work real good, like when out of control Corvette is heading for corner worker) Competition mode is really the only way to go but it takes a quality driver to make good times in a Corvette. Lots of power puts a premium on smoothness and throttle control. It gives you a definite appreciation for Michael, Rubens, Kimi, Juan and David (and all the others)
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by exukboy
I'm still confused by the comp mode and A/H settings. Here's my question... If I hold the A/H button down on my 00 vert for about 5 seconds when stationary, the comp mode display comes on which is correct but is the A/Handling still working cos if I hit the button a second time isn't that just switching off the comp mode again? I think basically what I want is comp driving mode with active handling working.
So here's the questions once again;
1. How to get comp driving mode with A/H operational.
2. How to get comp driving mode with A/H switched off too.(Xtra fun)

I have the handbook but it still doesn't make it clear...well not to me anyway.
Ok when you start the car you are in the default = AH & TC on
push the button one time = AH & TC off
Push the button and hold it for five seconds and the competative mode flashes in the DIC = AH on TC off
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nobigspoilerz
The only problem is that the DIC will only display Comp Mode when it's engaged. I like to be able to monitor my oil temps but can't when in comp.
Once you are in comp mode you can do whatever you want with the DIC to monitor things. You will still be in comp mode as long as you do not push the AH button again.
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Many thanks shurite44!
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by exukboy
Many thanks shurite44!
You are welcome. My first time at the track with my first C5, I looked like a baby bear cub trying to fu#% a football with all the switches.
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