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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Hey fellow Vetters,

I have just got back from Discout Tires and have learned a few informative things including honesty from the salesman (Kinda rare these days)

I was pricing Michelin PS 2's to learn that they are, without a doubt, the most expensive tires on the market currently.

I asked the gentleman why my tires have lost their thread faster than normal. His response was "Your car is sports bred" and the fact that it's RW drive, it will not matter what tire you get, simply becuase it will obviously not last as long as normal cars. I asked him "would it be worth spending such prohibitve $$$$$ on tires that will not last". His response was "if you enjoy wasting money". I asked for a recommendation and he advised me that Kumo's are the way to go. Bottom line is approx: $1100.00 installed and out the door. Savings of a few hundred dollars.

Now the question! Are the Kumo's quiter than the oem Good Years inclusive of comfort?

Your help is greatly appreciated as I am about to drop some serious cash. Dont want to make a mistake!

Thx

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Dealer put Kumhos on my rears when I bought my car , no problems as of yet , Still want to put Bridgestone S-03 Pole Positions .
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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I had Kuhmos on my Miata. Bought them new last summer. They were low profile tires for my oversized wheels. The problem is when I had the car sit for awhile, a week or so, the tires would get a flat spot. I got lots of vibration until the tires warmed up. I took driving them maybe five miles. I'd ask the honest salesman if he'd heard of this before.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Just got the Kuhmos, which replaced my Fiestone Firehawks. Very pleased with the ride, handeling and look. Zuti
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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follow my logic for a second

if a front wheel drive car had any kind of power at all ....say 200 hp

it could just as easily destroy tires as a 350 hp rwd vette

heres why

on a vette the rear tires do 1 thing push the car forward

the fronts do the stopping and steering
which arguably is an equal and opposite amount of work
the kicker is that it can be done at a slower rate than the rear wheels do there work (sometimes)

which equates into nearly even wear for fronts and backs unless you do burnouts

going back to the FWD car the front tires do the stopping starting and turning

all the forces for everything are done to the front wheels

the reason you dont notice it is because you rotate your tires

now go back and ask the honest salesman what he thinks about that

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Save a few hundred dollars more by getting your Kumhos here:
www.tirerack.com
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Ask him about Nitto 555's. You can get a set for around $750 Mounted out the door. Great tire in my opinion. BTW, I have heard alot of good about the Khumo's but they are soft and will wear out QUICKLY!!!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Check out the Kumho ASX's.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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I just put on a set of Kuhmo ASX's in place of the OEM Goodyear EMT's. I couldn't be happier - less than $800, MUCH quieter, softer and a 30000 mile tread warranty. $25 for the portable air pump.

Check them out.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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on the 3rd set of Kuhmos .. last longer that the OEM tires at 1/3 of the price..
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Price is high:
Tirerack: $822.00 (Edited, this price is for Kumho Run-Flats)

From Tiresavings.com
Toyo Proxies T1-S UHP :$694.00
Cooper Zeon 2XS UHP: $518.00
Bridgeston Potenza S03 Pole: $970.00

Plus shipping costs and mounting.

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 98vert6spd
follow my logic for a second

if a front wheel drive car had any kind of power at all ....say 200 hp

it could just as easily destroy tires as a 350 hp rwd vette

heres why

on a vette the rear tires do 1 thing push the car forward

the fronts do the stopping and steering
which arguably is an equal and opposite amount of work
the kicker is that it can be done at a slower rate than the rear wheels do there work (sometimes)

which equates into nearly even wear for fronts and backs unless you do burnouts

going back to the FWD car the front tires do the stopping starting and turning

all the forces for everything are done to the front wheels

the reason you dont notice it is because you rotate your tires

now go back and ask the honest salesman what he thinks about that

However, front tires track in turns. Rear tires must necessarily slip. Limited slip or posi or the like helps, but since the tire cannot track, it must rotate around an axis perpendicular to the ground. This will worsen if applying power to the rears during a turn.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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you are correct

you do need to factor that in
but the front tires "BITE" into the ground when they have to turn which i felt even the score

if you look at a tire when the wheel is turned it isnt flat on the ground
1 edge has more pressure applied which would increase the wear on that edge

i think that would even out the corner slippage
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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Yea, Kumhos are a tiure I'll stand by.... so far anyways They're quiet and great in any weather.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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So do those with Kumhos get a tire inflation kit, like GUNK?

Just curious, because we'll be looking at Kumhos likely to replace the runcraps when they wear out.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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happy with my kumhos
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JChrisF
Save a few hundred dollars more by getting your Kumhos here:
www.tirerack.com


you don't want a cheap tire, you want traction at a good price, and that's Kumho.

Give Luke@Tirerack a call.

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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TexCzechVette
I just put on a set of Kuhmo ASX's in place of the OEM Goodyear EMT's. I couldn't be happier - less than $800, MUCH quieter, softer and a 30000 mile tread warranty. $25 for the portable air pump.

Check them out.
What he said. The ASX's are a much quieter, have a softer ride (even with Z51) and really stick to the road. I had to get used to the additional body roll during higher speed turns though.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy's C5
What he said. The ASX's are a much quieter, have a softer ride (even with Z51) and really stick to the road. I had to get used to the additional body roll during higher speed turns though.

I am happy with my ASX's as well. True the side walls are not as stiff as the GY D3 that they replaced (came with the car when I purchased) and imagine the side walls on the run flats are even stiffer. The ASX's does flex a bit more on turns. For my type of driving they are fine. I have about 7K miles on them and expect the rears to last at least 30k, fronts do not show much wear at all. 90% of my driving is highway.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 4RE Killer
Hey fellow Vetters,

I have just got back from Discout Tires and have learned a few informative things including honesty from the salesman (Kinda rare these days)

I was pricing Michelin PS 2's to learn that they are, without a doubt, the most expensive tires on the market currently.

I asked the gentleman why my tires have lost their thread faster than normal. His response was "Your car is sports bred" and the fact that it's RW drive, it will not matter what tire you get, simply becuase it will obviously not last as long as normal cars. I asked him "would it be worth spending such prohibitve $$$$$ on tires that will not last". His response was "if you enjoy wasting money". I asked for a recommendation and he advised me that Kumo's are the way to go. Bottom line is approx: $1100.00 installed and out the door. Savings of a few hundred dollars.

Now the question! Are the Kumo's quiter than the oem Good Years inclusive of comfort?

Your help is greatly appreciated as I am about to drop some serious cash. Dont want to make a mistake!

Thx
Your getting ripped if they want 1100.00 for 4 tires installed.
Right before I sold my 99 coupe I put on Kuhmo ASX's, they replaced the Goodyear F1 supercars that were on my car. The difference was amazing.
1.the treadwear rating on the new ASX is 400. Thats outstanding for a performance tire.
2. The ride was great.
3. The sound was much quiter and smooth as butter.
I got mine at Discount tire, 660.00 all 4 installed. Now I did get a deal from a friend of a friend but, you should be able to get them for under 800-850 installed.
You will definetly be happy you did. I wish they were on my new 01 vert, the EMT's suck. They ride rough and they are way louder than the Kuhmos.
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