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I just got my 03 EB Z06 last week and this is my first post here. It is stock and has 3,000 miles on it. I figured before I started doing stuff to it I would get a stock dyno since I never did that with my TA. I’m not sure what these things usually dyno at but I’m pretty happy with it. Overall I’m amazed at how the car feels compared to the TA. I just wish now I would have bought a vette sooner.
I just got my 03 EB Z06 last week and this is my first post here. It is stock and has 3,000 miles on it. I figured before I started doing stuff to it I would get a stock dyno since I never did that with my TA. I’m not sure what these things usually dyno at but I’m pretty happy with it. Overall I’m amazed at how the car feels compared to the TA. I just wish now I would have bought a vette sooner.
Do you have any mods?. Those numbers look a little high for being stock?
What is the difference? SAE and what? I know when the original numbers came up 372 and 365 then after he did something it came out to what the graph says. My first 2 pulls were 356/345 and 363/357. We did back to back runs. The first run was after the car sat for about 40 min then we started the runs. As the car got warmer it did better.
Originally Posted by MikeNMaxZO6
Do you have any mods?. Those numbers look a little high for being stock?
It is bone stock and I think they seem high too. I was thinking stock was more around 360 or so. Maybe it is just a factory freak, got me.
Ain't dyno #'s grand. The uninformed get real excited when those non corrected numbers show up, then wonder why they're getting their as--es handed to them by cars with "less" HP. Oh well.
What is the difference? SAE and what? I know when the original numbers came up 372 and 365 then after he did something it came out to what the graph says. My first 2 pulls were 356/345 and 363/357. We did back to back runs. The first run was after the car sat for about 40 min then we started the runs. As the car got warmer it did better.
There are SAE corrected numbers, and then there are actual numbers, which is what you got. SAE numbers are corrected via a formula which compensates for different atmospheric conditions, temperature, etc.. That means when SAE numbers are given, you could dyno your car in 30 degree dry weather, and 90 degree humid weather, and get comparable numbers.
Actual numbers do not compensate for anything, and therefore are generally higher than what a car is realistically making.
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It depends on what the ambient conditions are. If you dyno on a 100 degree F day your actuals will probably be lower than SAE. If you dyno on a 30 degree day your actuals will probably be higher than SAE. BARO and humidity are also factors in the equation.
SAE levels the playing field. It is impossible to compare an actual run done on Monday with an SAE run done on Tuesday at a different location.
There are SAE corrected numbers, and then there are actual numbers, which is what you got. SAE numbers are corrected via a formula which compensates for different atmospheric conditions, temperature, etc.. That means when SAE numbers are given, you could dyno your car in 30 degree dry weather, and 90 degree humid weather, and get comparable numbers.
Actual numbers do not compensate for anything, and therefore are generally higher than what a car is realistically making.
Ain't dyno #'s grand. The uninformed get real excited when those non corrected numbers show up, then wonder why they're getting their as--es handed to them by cars with "less" HP. Oh well.
I guess I will not be excited about my car or #'s anymore. You -> <- Me Thanks
Originally Posted by EV2DEMON
There are SAE corrected numbers, and then there are actual numbers, which is what you got. SAE numbers are corrected via a formula which compensates for different atmospheric conditions, temperature, etc.. That means when SAE numbers are given, you could dyno your car in 30 degree dry weather, and 90 degree humid weather, and get comparable numbers.
Actual numbers do not compensate for anything, and therefore are generally higher than what a car is realistically making.
Thank you for clearing that up. I didn’t realize the numbers could be corrected in different ways. I'll ask them if I can get a SAE printout so it will be a little more accurate. Nonetheless I'm still happy with the car. The temperature was 70 when I dynoed but I'm not sure about the other conditions.
I guess I will not be excited about my car or #'s anymore. You -> <- Me Thanks
Thank you for clearing that up. I didn’t realize the numbers could be corrected in different ways. I'll ask them if I can get a SAE printout so it will be a little more accurate. Nonetheless I'm still happy with the car. The temperature was 70 when I dynoed but I'm not sure about the other conditions.
I hope you're being serious and not sarcastic. To be blunt - uncorrected numbers are completely worthless - you said it yourself - you aren't sure about the conditions - SAE always corrects the values to the same conditions. All you have to do is have your operator print off the SAE corrected chart - it is in the computer.
[QUOTE=03 ZO6]I guess I will not be excited about my car or #'s anymore. You -> <- Me Thanks
That is damn funny!!! Nut kick!!! Seriously, good numbers for a stock car. The un-corrected numbers give you IMO what your car is putting down that day, in those conditions. The SAE is a better comparision for location, dynos ect... I have been educated on this board for SAE vs uncorected numbers, and I have seen a delta of 50HP on 3 Dynos, in very close conditions with in 5 days. Great coments and explanitions of SAE as well and there are so many experiance, very smart folks here (and great guys who always are willing to help us out) Congrats and welcome aboard!!! Damn I love that south park style kick How about some pics or your car??? Take care!
Standard Atmospheric conditions are defined as; altimeter 29.92, temperature 59 degrees farenheit, and at Sea Level.
Do atmospheric conditions make a real difference? Well, before I lost the Triumph sprint I could wheelie easily with a simple throttle roll-on in first gear if the temp was below 40 degrees. Above 70 degrees it would seem like the bike lost 10HP.
Internet dyno comparisons are a bit of an excercise in futility anyway - there is more variance between dyno's and dyno operators than actual differences in (stock) cars. SAE is a way to somwhat normalize the comparisons. It is good that you got a baseline, I would ask the guy to SAE correct to compensate for local weather changes (like humidity etc) and use the baseline as a tuning aid as you add mods.
Les
Originally Posted by rbartick
It depends on what the ambient conditions are. If you dyno on a 100 degree F day your actuals will probably be lower than SAE. If you dyno on a 30 degree day your actuals will probably be higher than SAE. BARO and humidity are also factors in the equation.
SAE levels the playing field. It is impossible to compare an actual run done on Monday with an SAE run done on Tuesday at a different location.
I hope you're being serious and not sarcastic. To be blunt - uncorrected numbers are completely worthless - you said it yourself - you aren't sure about the conditions - SAE always corrects the values to the same conditions. All you have to do is have your operator print off the SAE corrected chart - it is in the computer.
I'm serious. I’m happy that someone explained the difference between the different corrections. When I get a chance I'm going to have him get me a SAE sheet for a more realistic comparison just to see where I am at. I'm not trying to internet dyno or race but just see where I am at compared to others around the country. I just wanted the car to fall in the average and hopefully not be a below average car. As I said before I thought the numbers seemed a little high from some other posts that I have seen and I'm glad that someone said they are not SAE numbers like in other posts. None the less the car is still a blast to drive.