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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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We have a dyno day every month or so at one of the regular shops in San Diego (not a vette shop) and ALL the Cobra's are putting down 400-475rwhp. There's almost NEVER one that's less than 375 rwhp.....and there are always a lot of Cobras there.

Now I know that's not a lot to my FI C5 brothers......but to us NA guys that makes those cars very difficult to beat.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 84zz4vette
I know. I figure I'm missing maybe 20rwhp or so with my lacking of a good tune.....

I was supposed to take it up to A&A a while ago but i just haven't got around to it.
You do need the tune. I'm making right at 330 rwhp with almost the same mods as you. I got pulled by a cobra claiming 445 rwhp with the smaller pulley and exhaust by about a car length through those same speeds but I have an auto and 3:15's. The tune will make a huge difference. At least it did for my sluggish auto. They are fast in a straight line no doubt.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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i was 50/50 at one point dtermining to buy whether an 03-04 cobra or a vette.. I had the mod plans picked out for both cars.. for 1900 bux the cobra would be putting around 470rwhp..

i contemplated and thought, and overall you can only use that power very rarely ie the track and occasional stupid racing. But for 95% of the time you're either driving a mustang or a corvette.. thinking in that perspective, its a NO BRAINER!
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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305 rwhp? Sorry, but you've got some serious bugs to work out. I smoked a 402rwhp cobra at the dragstrip with my 288+hp a4 3.15 reared '99 vert. I have only added a predator, vararam, velocity stack and corsa indies since my 288hp dyno. I run 8.45's in the 1/8th. I am probably at least 310 at the rear wheels now. 305 means go back to the drawing board.

Not trying to sound like a *****, but your car should be stronger than it is.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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I know that....and I've said as much.

I ran a thread about my dyno numbers some time back. The conclusions were:

1) I'm rich and I need a tune

2) The 4.10's lower the rwhp reading on a dyno

Like I said.....i just haven't had a chance to get it tuned.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Z0Sick6
i was 50/50 at one point dtermining to buy whether an 03-04 cobra or a vette.. I had the mod plans picked out for both cars.. for 1900 bux the cobra would be putting around 470rwhp..

i contemplated and thought, and overall you can only use that power very rarely ie the track and occasional stupid racing. But for 95% of the time you're either driving a mustang or a corvette.. thinking in that perspective, its a NO BRAINER!
Good call and I agree 100%. And that's also why I bought the bottle.......for that "other 5%" of the time....
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Originally Posted by 84zz4vette
I know that....and I've said as much.

I ran a thread about my dyno numbers some time back. The conclusions were:

1) I'm rich and I need a tune

2) The 4.10's lower the rwhp reading on a dyno

Like I said.....i just haven't had a chance to get it tuned.
I remember that thread. 4.10:1 will not lower your rwhp by that much!! You're missing upwards of 30rwhp!!

But a 03/04 Cobra will smoke you with those mods anyway

EG
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Z0Sick6
i was 50/50 at one point dtermining to buy whether an 03-04 cobra or a vette.. I had the mod plans picked out for both cars.. for 1900 bux the cobra would be putting around 470rwhp..

i contemplated and thought, and overall you can only use that power very rarely ie the track and occasional stupid racing. But for 95% of the time you're either driving a mustang or a corvette.. thinking in that perspective, its a NO BRAINER!
I was in the same exact position myself 2 years ago. Good point on how often are you going to use all that power. I don't street race or go to the track that often (limited budget to always be replacing broken parts ) so the vette was plenty of car for me.
plus as someone here said "there will always be a faster car"

If I were in his shoes I would not go out and spend extra money on more mods to go and beat a Cobra...what if the Cobra does more mods ..around and around its a vicious circle
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
I remember that thread. 4.10:1 will not lower your rwhp by that much!! You're missing upwards of 30rwhp!!

But a 03/04 Cobra will smoke you with those mods anyway

EG
If I recall......the consensus was a possible loss of up to 10 rwhp because of the 4.10s.......

But regardless, there is no doubt I'm rich and ain't getting as much as I could be......
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Originally Posted by FrankTank
If I were in his shoes I would not go out and spend extra money on more mods to go and beat a Cobra...what if the Cobra does more mods ..around and around its a vicious circle
I'm done with "go fast" mods. Like I said......I wanna get my bottle installed for those "special occasions"......and them that's it. If you've got a faster car.....more power to ya!

And with the bottle......I won't be running people hardly ever. I'll most likely just give them a Purge and a Smile.......
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So who cares if the Cobra is faster or put down more HP its still a Ford. We have Vettes which are now and always in a league of their own.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DJN
So who cares if the Cobra is faster or put down more HP its still a Ford. We have Vettes which are now and always in a league of their own.



Idiots like the above shouldn't be allowed to post here.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Play nice now.....this thread is toeing the line enough as it is....

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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 84zz4vette


Place nice now.....this thread is toeing the line enough as it is....
I've had them shut down for less..... I'm surprised this one is still up.
but I agree with DJN, it's still a Mustang and Vettes are all around better.
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Originally Posted by BlownV6


Idiots like the above shouldn't be allowed to post here.
Are you calling me an idiot?
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Originally Posted by DJN
Are you calling me an idiot?
Some don't like it when others are right.....

Just blow it off man.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tT-REXXX
I would never buy one,but wait till the new 450hp cobra hits the street.There will be a lot of crying by both c5 and c6 owners.I think most ls1 owners know by now that a cobra will outrun a standard vette from 40 to 110.c5 midrange sucks.don't ask me how I know.
When the C6 Z06 comes out in a couple of months, who'll be whining then?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DJN
So who cares if the Cobra is faster or put down more HP its still a Ford. We have Vettes which are now and always in a league of their own.
kind of a stupid comment... but anyways....

305 rwhp? Sorry, but you've got some serious bugs to work out. I smoked a 402rwhp cobra at the dragstrip with my 288+hp a4 3.15 reared '99 vert. I have only added a predator, vararam, velocity stack and corsa indies since my 288hp dyno. I run 8.45's in the 1/8th. I am probably at least 310 at the rear wheels now. 305 means go back to the drawing board.

Not trying to sound like a *****, but your car should be stronger than it is.
posts like this are soooo much worse though!!!

are you really serious?? are you proud of beating that cobra?? i would never even post that as a comparison. post the timeslip... was the cobras 60ft something like 2.2-2.3?? how about the trap speed... still 120+ im sure. that cobra obviously had a horrible run to get beat by you.

not trying to sound like a *****, but your car will get beat by a cobra with 400+ rwhp. and when you win, its because something went wrong with the other car!
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C5kidd...sounds like he walked him....
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[QUOTE=C5 KIDD]kind of a stupid comment... but anyways....

This coming from a guy who has C5 KIDD as an Avatar / plate.
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