Damn, that is fast. Maybe we can get corvettekillstories.com's California JBSBLOWNC5 to give this GT one of his famous canyon runs on video. That guy is a nut lol!

 

a c5 would be dreaming if it thought it could run with a cobra...FYI. Cobras put more to the ground, then a c5 has at the motor. 369rwhp STOCK and 3600lbs, Vs 3200lbs and 345flhp.I have no clue what a c5 put to the ground, but say its underrated, and puts like 320. 50hp differance is alot no matter how you look at it. I love vettes and all....but going straight the cobra dominates. In the turns with reg drivers is where the cobra will loose to a Z. With badass drivers its actually close. Ive time trialed with a few Zs and been on there *** in the turns, and then they pulled away in the straight. I had a catback, and the most recient guy had slicks, and who knows what other mods. Not getting on you...just letting you know. A c5 does not even make a cobra owner flinch, and unless you have a modded Z then they dont think much of it either. Now some on this site with blowers or full boltons.....those are fast all cars. Its a great car, and im planning on getting one just cause of how much i like it...and i hate chevy..i just like the Z06 alot. The cobra and Z both are mighty beasts. Just good luck running into a stock cobra...i dont think those exhist anymore.

 

they were like 2 inches shorter than the stock ones, so all of the settings in the eec went crazy. If they had tuned the car, then they would have got another .3 out of the car. The drag radials actually did more harm then good.

 

The one thing is, you never know what the other guy has. If someone wanted to run with me, other than out on the highway with some unknown person (just on my way to work lol!) I like to have the other guy open the hood, be totally transparent, I do the same just to show I am not sporting any NOS or something. I ask all the questions first, before I put my car out there. I added a pic. so you guys can grab a look.

 

A STOCK Cobra and a stock LS1 C5 both run low 13s.

 

You are the one that is dreaming. A stock LS1 and a Stock Cobra both run low 13s.

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...vet/index.html

A stock Z06 is mid to low 12s.

 

I was thinking the same thing. This would be a bunch of fun. I think the GT is one of the sharpest cars on the planet, bar NONE. As for being over priced, 150K is 150K (if you can find one for that, which I doubt). Kind of makes the new Z seem like quite a bargain. It will be interesting to see how the two stack up against each other in stock trim. Here's the comparison Motor Trend did of the Viper and GT...

Road Test: 2004 Dodge Viper vs. 2005 Ford GT
Welcome to the 500-horsepower club

By Jack Keebler & Todd Lassa
Motor Trend, January 2004

Compairsion Chart
2004 Dodge SRT-10 Viper 2005 Ford GT
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front engine, rwd Mid-engine, rwd
Engine type 90* V-10, aluminum block/heads Supercharged 90* V-8, aluminum block/heads
Valve gear OHV, 2 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Bore x stroke, in/mm 4.03x3.96 / 102.4x100.6 3.55x4.16 / 90.2x105.8
Displacement, ci/cc 505.1/8277 330.1/5409
Compression ratio 9.6:1 8.4:1
Max horsepower @ rpm 500 @ 5600 500 @ 6000
Max torque @ rpm 525 @ 4200 500 @ 4500
Redline rpm 6000 6500
Engine rpm @ 60 mph 1200 1515
Transmission 6-speed manual 6-speed manual
Axle/final-drive ratio:1 3.07 / 1.54 3.36 / 2.12
Suspension, front; rear Upper and lower control arms,coil springs, anti-roll bar, upper and lower control arms, coil, springs, anti-roll bar Upper and lower control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; upperand lower control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Brakes, f/r 14.0-in vented disc, 14.0-in vented disc, ABS 14.0-in vented disc,13.2-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f/r 10.0x18; 13.0x19, forged aluminum 9.0x18; 11.5x19, forged aluminum
Tires, f/r 275/35ZR18; 345/30ZR19, Michelin Pilot Sport 235/45ZR18; 315/40ZR19,Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar
DIMENSIONS
Seating capacity 2 2
Wheelbase, in 98.8 106.7
Track, f/r, in 61.6/60.9 63.0/63.7
Length, in 175.6 182.8
Width, in 75.2 76.9
Height, in 47.6 44.3
Turning circle, ft 40.5 40.0
Headroom, in 36.5 35.4
Legroom, in 42.4 44.6
Shoulder room, in 54.1 57.7
Curb weight, lb 3410 3400 (est)
Weight, f/r, % 48/52 43/57
Cargo capacity, cu ft 8.4 n/a
Fuel capacity, gal 18.5 17.5
TEST DATA
Acceleration, sec
0-30 mph 1.7 1.7
0-40 mph 2.4 2.3
0-50 mph 3.0 2.9
0-60 mph 3.9 3.6
0-70 mph 4.8 4.7
0-80 mph 5.8 5.6
0-90 mph 7.0 6.5
0-100 mph 8.4 8.1
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 11.77 @ 123.63 11.78 @ 124.31
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 97 111
600-ft slalom, mph 70.4 71.5
CONSUMER INFO
On sale in U.S. Currently May 2004
Base price $80,995 $149,995 (est)
Price as tested $84,795 $153,000 (est)
Airbags Dual front Dual front
Basic warranty 3 yrs/36,000 miles 3 yrs/36,000 miles
Powertrain warranty 7 yrs/70,000 miles 3 yrs/36,000 miles
EPA mpg, city/hwy 12/20 14/21 (est)
Range, miles, city/hwy 222/370 245/368
Recommended fuel Unleaded premium Unleaded premium

 

Nuff said!

 

You have that one sentence worded wrong. It should read "400lb difference is a lot no matter how you look at it". The quickest stock Cobra's run high 12's. The average is low 13's. Those are stock C5 and F-Body times.

My favorite however is this one "Not getting on you...just letting you know. A c5 does not even make a cobra owner flinch, and unless you have a modded Z then they dont think much of it either."

 

Every guy that owns a cobra and has tracked it has done better than a 13.0. I promise. The verts do 12.9, and the coupes do 12.6 all day long...just fyi, and i bet there are 100 people on SVTPerformance that can give you slips to prove it. I dont straight line anymore, so i have no clue what my car does...but i do know that yes...a C5 is modded if it beats a 03-04 cobra.

 

I left out a word.
Just being honest....90% of the Cobra crowd is modded....are stock Zs gonna run a 460rwhp Cobra? no, but its a modded car. Thats why i sad Cobra owners dont pay attentions to stock vettes. And jezz, i like vetts and am trying to get one. I know its a good car, and a modded one its almost untouchable. As for the 400lbs diff....instant boost and that at least 50hp takes that to hell. Even driving the few Zs i have i notice that the TQ is super slow at coming on, but im used to a blower car. The vette IS a better car. it is a higher class car....and you pay for it to be better. It always will be, but dont count out a car that is also badass....you guys get so defensive.

 

I think that if you check out SVTperformance, and just based on the track experiences I've had(i've made several dozen trips in the past three years), I think that in this case I'd disagree. I think it's a negligible difference on the street, but fwiw, I think the evidence shows the 03/04 Cobra's to be a smidge faster down the 1320 than a base C5...

 

60 ft - 1.978
1/8 - 8.351
mph - 86.17
1/4 - 12.908
mph - 108.05

just installed my k&n yesterday no other mods
f-1 tires

a quote i pulled right off the website....just a drop in k&n. It was the guys first time to the track. Again..i love the Z, but the Cobra has alot in the straight line. On a RR, the Z wold take it.

 

motortrend also says that a STi can run with both of them.....their not a bit biased are they? no..i dont think so.....

 

Is that supposed to be a quick example? It is not enough to threaten a Z06.

 

Is that supposed to be a quick example? I am not one of the elite drivers on the forum and that time is not nearly enough to threaten my airbox-only Z06 on OEM tires.




Video HERE

 

Is that supposed to be a quick example? I am not one of the elite drivers on the forum and that time is not nearly enough to threaten my airbox-only Z06 on OEM tires.




Video HERE

 

I would say a stock 03-04 Cobra (1/4 mile wise) falls exactly between a C5 and a C5 Z06. A Cobra will beat the C5 as badly as the Z06 will beat the Cobra.

Stock Cobras are 12.7-12.9 cars typically, not low 13's (assuming decent driver of course). We've all seen the 13 sec. cobra and 14 sec LS1. We've even seen the very low 12 sec C6 Z06.

 

we were comparing Stock c5s to Stock cobras. not Z06.

 

I posted my Z06 slip because of the following posts by you