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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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I will be having MTI install a Stealth II cam with new push rods, lifters etc. I have a 2000 A4 Vert with 3:15s, Kooks headers, Kooks X-pipe, high flow cats, Blackwing, Yank 3000 and TI exhaust.
What do you think the cam will add for HP after dyno tune?
Is it worth it to add the U/D pulley?
What should I expect total HP at the wheels to be?

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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When I put a larger cam in my Z28 (1999 LS1) I gained about 25 rwhp with the cam, springs, pushrods alone.

This was a 224/224 .561 size cam.

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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When I put a larger cam in my Z28 (1999 LS1) I gained about 25 rwhp with the cam, springs, pushrods alone.

This was a 224/224 .561 size cam.

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The Stealth II is a 224/220 .581
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Easily 25rwhp, maybe 30, and trust me a cam on stock heads will pep the car up a bit. If you do this, I recommend upgraded the pushrods, springs, timing chain, pulley and retainers. A cam of this size will wear those springs out over time, much more quickier than a stock cam.

Have fun with this and trust me, the cam makes a noticeable difference.
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They will also be replacing the springs.
Good idea on the timing chain. I will ad that to the list.
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Originally Posted by Ron H
They will also be replacing the springs.
Good idea on the timing chain. I will ad that to the list.
I'd add a new HD oil pump in there also
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I got a CC 230/232 112 and dyno tune. Had tpis long tubes, no cats, vortex, etc. before the install and tune. 350 rwhp when it was done. I was hoping for much better. Probably got a crappy tune.
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Originally Posted by afone
I got a CC 230/232 112 and dyno tune. Had tpis long tubes, no cats, vortex, etc. before the install and tune. 350 rwhp when it was done. I was hoping for much better. Probably got a crappy tune.
This seems low to me.

What degree on the cam? .5XX?

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Originally Posted by afone
I got a CC 230/232 112 and dyno tune. Had tpis long tubes, no cats, vortex, etc. before the install and tune. 350 rwhp when it was done. I was hoping for much better. Probably got a crappy tune.
After my header install I dynoed at 333.8 HP and 345.7 torque and I understand the 3000 stall eats up a bit of the HP on the dyno..I am guessing I should pick up 30 to 35 hp with the cam. Maybe with the cam and underdrive pully I could come in at about 375 HP. That would be sweet.
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Originally Posted by afone
I got a CC 230/232 112 and dyno tune. Had tpis long tubes, no cats, vortex, etc. before the install and tune. 350 rwhp when it was done. I was hoping for much better. Probably got a crappy tune.

yeah that def. seems a little low. just header guys with no tunes are running 330-340rwhp. with a big cam like that, and a tune, you should be well over 350. id say closer to 380ish. tune makes a big difference though!
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I forgot the YankSS3600 converter... got that too, could that be a reason for low numbers? He also said something about a clutch pack in my A4 maybe being bad. Still, I think crappy tune. Car runs fine though... maybe I'll get it retuned by someone else since I have moved since then. intake .591 exhaust .595 112 +4. You guys think I would benefit from a new tune? The company that did the work has since gone out of business... havent heard to many good things about them.
Max rwhp 350.4 @ about 6800 rpm
Max TQ 363.3 @ about 4100 rpm
Graph looks strange to me.
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Originally Posted by afone
I forgot the YankSS3600 converter... got that too, could that be a reason for low numbers? He also said something about a clutch pack in my A4 maybe being bad. Still, I think crappy tune. Car runs fine though... maybe I'll get it retuned by someone else since I have moved since then. intake .591 exhaust .595 112 +4. You guys think I would benefit from a new tune? The company that did the work has since gone out of business... havent heard to many good things about them.
Max rwhp 350.4 @ about 6800 rpm
Max TQ 363.3 @ about 4100 rpm
Graph looks strange to me.
You should be making ALOT more power than that. I have a 229/235 585/595 113.5 +4 and made 375@5400 (would have been over 400) with the traction controle freaked out.. Stock heads and Exahust less cat back.
I would definently get a new tune.

http://www.threeguyshotrods.com/files/dyno5212005.jpg

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