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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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I really loved her. RIP Christine...
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Carbaque or what!!!
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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I am glad to hear no one was hurt. I get the feeling, GM takes the angle that if they don't look for a problem then a problem does not exist. I wish corp. america would treat people with the same respect that you or I would. If you sell a product to someone, make sure it is safe or at least let people know what could go wrong. Unfort. it seems that most large corp. like to pass the buck and to treat the little man like a POC. I get the feeling that the locator that was added to the car might be at fault. If so then maybe all of us out here would like to know what not to wire in our cars. Can you blame someone for trying to protect their investment with a locator. If it wasn't the add on then we all really do have a problem. Thanks for telling us your story.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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ughh!.....sorry to see this!

my wife had a vehicle issue that was well documented on NHTSA, and all the manufacturer said was "it's not our problem"....and the manufacturer was not GM, either.....

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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That brought a tear to my eye.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Sorry to hear about that!! The main thing is that you got out safely!! Good luck with your settlement, etc.

Was the car modified at all? I'm curious about what caused this. Beyond a fuel leak I dunno what could cause it to go up in flames so fast.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Sorry to hear about that!! The main thing is that you got out safely!! Good luck with your settlement, etc.

Was the car modified at all? I'm curious about what caused this. Beyond a fuel leak I dunno what could cause it to go up in flames so fast.
Thanks (to everyone) for the thoughts.

It was the main fuel line. Apparently enough pressure had built up in the engine that it blew. The only modification we did to it was the exhaust pipes--not a full exhaust. The history of the car before we got it is up for grabs because the dealer we bought it from used didn't know about the Lojack on it even and was mystified when the dealer we had it serviced from locally called them to ask about it. I don't think there were any other modifications on it other than that. I'm still mystified by it---had I been racing her or something along those lines, I could understand it better, but my max speed that night was about 75 (which is barely even going, as all Z06 owners know!) and when it blew, I was going about 40.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mcb1964
Thanks (to everyone) for the thoughts.

It was the main fuel line. Apparently enough pressure had built up in the engine that it blew. The only modification we did to it was the exhaust pipes--not a full exhaust. The history of the car before we got it is up for grabs because the dealer we bought it from used didn't know about the Lojack on it even and was mystified when the dealer we had it serviced from locally called them to ask about it. I don't think there were any other modifications on it other than that. I'm still mystified by it---had I been racing her or something along those lines, I could understand it better, but my max speed that night was about 75 (which is barely even going, as all Z06 owners know!) and when it blew, I was going about 40.
Wow, that's scary!! There should be NO reason for a fuel leak unless the fuel system had been modified. The lines are steel braided, so I'm wondering what could have caused it to pop (would have taken a LOT of pressure; more than I think a fuel pump could produce, but who knows.) What is tough here is that since you bought it used it's hard to say what was done prior to your ownership. Maybe the line lock that connects the lines failed or the schrader valve on the end of the fuel rail. If someone had had a wet nitrous kit on it at some point and didn't reassemble the fuel lines safely that could be it. Wow, several possibilities.

Your driving habits shouldn't have anything to do with this accident. Fuel systems in cars today are designed to maintain integrity in moderate impacts; it's not like they are brittle. Though anything is possible, I would suspect something had either been tampered with or possbily damaged prior to you purchasing the car either by modding or by careless service on the vehicle. But like I said, anything is possible...
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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I am glad to hear no one was hurt. I get the feeling, GM takes the angle that if they don't look for a problem then a problem does not exist. I wish corp. america would treat people with the same respect that you or I would. If you sell a product to someone, make sure it is safe or at least let people know what could go wrong. Unfort. it seems that most large corp. like to pass the buck and to treat the little man like a POC. I get the feeling that the locator that was added to the car might be at fault. If so then maybe all of us out here would like to know what not to wire in our cars. Can you blame someone for trying to protect their investment with a locator. If it wasn't the add on then we all really do have a problem. Thanks for telling us your story.
Thanks. I hear you about the corporations. It's all about the bottom line and if there is a problem, then it's more cost effective to let people get hurt than to issue a recall, sadly enough. What disturbs me is that it is entirely possible that it was just Christine, but what if it IS a flaw that needs attention? For them to offer to take it and examine it while throwing out the idea that the possibility existed that we could be offered "0-Market Value" after they reached their conclusion shows that they really don't have consumer safety at the forefront of their thinking. Basically, the message we got was, "Let your insurance company handle this because you stand a better chance of recouping your money. We don't care that we might have an issue."
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I would have an Origin and Cause inspection done and they can determine the cause. It may cost a few hundred dollars, but worth it in my opinion-
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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that is one sad story and picture glad to hear you all were not hurt though and hope you get this settled that is one sad sight
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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sorry about your loss

it seems reasonable to assume this is a one time incident however because no one has ever reported this happening before now that I've seen

it's understandable to want to lay blame in a situation like this but it's almost guaranteed your particular car was at fault, not GM's engineering
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Wow, that's scary!! There should be NO reason for a fuel leak unless the fuel system had been modified. The lines are steel braided, so I'm wondering what could have caused it to pop (would have taken a LOT of pressure; more than I think a fuel pump could produce, but who knows.) What is tough here is that since you bought it used it's hard to say what was done prior to your ownership. Maybe the line lock that connects the lines failed or the schrader valve on the end of the fuel rail. If someone had had a wet nitrous kit on it at some point and didn't reassemble the fuel lines safely that could be it. Wow, several possibilities.

Your driving habits shouldn't have anything to do with this accident. Fuel systems in cars today are designed to maintain integrity in moderate impacts; it's not like they are brittle. Though anything is possible, I would suspect something had either been tampered with or possbily damaged prior to you purchasing the car either by modding or by careless service on the vehicle. But like I said, anything is possible...
Is there any way to tell if a car has been modified and then put back? Is this something, since we bought it from a dealer, that should have been recognized when/if they inspected the car? I'm asking both for the current situation and for the future in what to look for. I was a Ford-girl before and will probably go back to Cobras (sadly, because Christine really was about the most fun I've had driving in a long time) and, of course, if it was due to a modification that had been put back together, I wouldn't want to make the same mistake again.

Thanks for all of your input!
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mcb1964
Is there any way to tell if a car has been modified and then put back? Is this something, since we bought it from a dealer, that should have been recognized when/if they inspected the car? I'm asking both for the current situation and for the future in what to look for. I was a Ford-girl before and will probably go back to Cobras (sadly, because Christine really was about the most fun I've had driving in a long time) and, of course, if it was due to a modification that had been put back together, I wouldn't want to make the same mistake again.

Thanks for all of your input!
I like what Zee06 mentioned above about the inspection. If it is found to be as it was from the factory, you have yourself a case!
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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sorry about your loss

it seems reasonable to assume this is a one time incident however because no one has ever reported this happening before now that I've seen

it's understandable to want to lay blame in a situation like this but it's almost guaranteed your particular car was at fault, not GM's engineering
Well, she had been well-maintained and in our possession for almost two years. So, other than any modifications that might have been undisclosed by the previous owner when he traded it in...there really is some one to blame at some point, you know? I mean, I don't have these huge plans of going after someone or some company for it because our insurance company will compensate, but somewhere along the line I am laying blame. The only blame I place on GM is not wanting to find out for themselves through their channels what did happen because it is a matter of safety for their consumers.
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If you've already had her for 2 years and havent had a problem, then Idont think there was any "not put back together right" issues. If it was, it would have happened within the first month or so of purchase. I'd say have it looked into. Inquiring minds would like to know, expecially considering I just got myself an '02 Z06 myself.
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Well, she had been well-maintained and in our possession for almost two years. So, other than any modifications that might have been undisclosed by the previous owner when he traded it in...there really is some one to blame at some point, you know? I mean, I don't have these huge plans of going after someone or some company for it because our insurance company will compensate, but somewhere along the line I am laying blame. The only blame I place on GM is not wanting to find out for themselves through their channels what did happen because it is a matter of safety for their consumers.
Not to offend you as I completely understand your point and position, but in my opinion Ford would probably have the same stance if not less concern based on what I've seen.

Unfortunately it's hard to get their attention without a repeat occurence (if not several.) Isn't life in corporate America grand!!

I hope you are able to find out a definite cause. Let us know how it goes.
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If you've already had her for 2 years and havent had a problem, then Idont think there was any "not put back together right" issues. If it was, it would have happened within the first month or so of purchase. I'd say have it looked into. Inquiring minds would like to know, expecially considering I just got myself an '02 Z06 myself.
We have asked our insurance company to forward their final report to us for that reason. We are curious too. I will keep you posted on what they find out.

I'm sad for me because I loved the car so much but truly sad for my husband because before this, he swore he'd never be without a 'Vette since his first one (an '84) and now he's a little shaken by it. I'd like for him to be able to find out that there was a specific reason unrelated to manufacturing to restore his faith in the cars he loves the best.
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