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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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just got back from 1st time at carlisle. had a blast, will go back next year. went to c5 tech seminar on fri. guy said installing column bypass could cause a problem down the road as it doesnt load the comp. as much as oringinal circuit. anyone agree or had any long term problems. any comments. also to anyone who hasnt been there it is a must at least once.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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This was someone from CT and goes by the handle C4C5specialist. I have heard him say this before, but have not seen a single documented case. Many people have had them for years with no problem. I will deal with it if it happens, until I feel a lot more comfortable knowing my column lock won't go off. I don't have the recall either, will never get it as long as I own the car. At this point I am off warranty, and the dealer will never see the car again.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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This was someone from CT and goes by the handle C4C5specialist. I have heard him say this before, but have not seen a single documented case.
I've heard that from him as well; but I don't think he has actual hands-on knowledge of the CLB - so he may be simply passing on info that some GM tech exec told him to say.

Ya' know, not all info from GM & Chevrolet division is 100% accurate - and some of it is intentional B.S. The Technical part of the division -I've heard- is sometimes told to say things that is dictated from their lawyers - and is not 100% technically correct.

But reports from people that have actually purchased the CLB device, installed it, and have run with it for at-least a few years have reported no troubles; not even a slight hiccup (except on 1997 and 1998 model C5's; thanks for the correction JACKAL0PE !!!)

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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I was there Friday and asked that question. I agree with others, he has no experience with CLB. Otherwise a lot what he said I heard last year
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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I was there Friday and asked that question. I agree with others, he has no experience with CLB. Otherwise a lot what he said I heard last year
I forgot, while I was there, he ran over time and I missed the 1PM group photo.
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I was there Friday and asked that question. I agree with others, he has no experience with CLB. Otherwise a lot what he said I heard last year
Thanks for the info.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by c5krazy
just got back from 1st time at carlisle. had a blast, will go back next year. went to c5 tech seminar on fri. guy said installing column bypass could cause a problem down the road as it doesnt load the comp. as much as oringinal circuit. anyone agree or had any long term problems. any comments. also to anyone who hasnt been there it is a must at least once.
It might be better to pose this question in the title, we have a ton of Carlisle post.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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thanks for the info, as i listened to him i felt my pc meter start to go up. found him hard believe, typical dealer smooth over.
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wasn't it this same guy that in 2001 or 2002 told C5 owners (at some seminar that he was the keynote speaker) that changing rear axle ratio on a C5 would "screw up the speedometer" ? And he didn't present it as a guess... he stated it as "fact".

This was during the time that many of us here on CF were about to do this (rear axle ratio upgrade) for the first time, and accurate info was hard to come by. It threw us all in a loop - as this guy was supposedly "knowledgeable".
If he would of just said "I have never done this before, so all I can do is guess"... then it wouldn't of caused so much hardship to those of us just-about to take on this mod.

Some people are so full of themselves, that they have convinced themselves that their guesses are as good as facts. I dunno if it was him or not, but that name sounds very familiar.
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
But reports from people that have actually purchased the CLB device, installed it, and have run with it for at-least a few years have reported no troubles; not even a slight hiccup.
Mike, that's not 100% accurate either.

There was someone here on the forum about a year ago that had an early C5 (97 or 98) who said that all kinds of squirrelly things happened after he installed the CLB. That's a big reason why I haven't ever put it on mine (I've got a A4 with the factory recall, now my steering wheel doesn't ever lock). He scared hell out of me.

As I understand it, the early years are a little different and the CLB can cause problems with some of them. I don't claim to have any first hand knowledge of this, but I have seen it posted here.
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Mike, that's not 100% accurate either.

There was someone here on the forum about a year ago that had an early C5 (97 or 98) who said that all kinds of squirrelly things happened after he installed the CLB. That's a big reason why I haven't ever put it on mine (I've got a A4 with the factory recall, now my steering wheel doesn't ever lock). He scared hell out of me.
and you are correct. There was something about 1997 and 1998. Your challenge to me just kicked my mind in gear. Doesn't the mfgr of the CLB -now- make a slightly different version fot the 1997 & 1998 (or was there some program change needed for the 97 & 98 along with the CLB install) ???

BTW, I edited my post.
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
and you are correct. There was something about 1997 and 1998. Your challenge to me just kicked my mind in gear. Doesn't the mfgr of the CLB -now- make a slightly different version fot the 1997 & 1998 (or was there some program change needed for the 97 & 98 along with the CLB install) ???

BTW, I edited my post.
Don't know. Like I said, he scared hell out of me so I've stopped looking for or at the CLB kits. Besides, as I understand it, if your steering wheel never locks, you don't have a potential problem. Mine doesn't.
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