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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Can a person lower the front anymore than what the stock bolts will allow? It looks like the spring is already down to the bushing.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Sure.

Cut the bushing or remove the bolt completely.

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Sure.

Cut the bushing or remove the bolt completely.

So the bolt doesn't keep everything together? I didn't think you could take the bolt out. Also this may be a dumb question but have you ever heard of any wheels hitting the fender well from being to low?
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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The bolt is simply threaded through the spring.
The bottom end of the bolt (the bushing) presses down on the control arm. It always touches the arm, even when you jack the car up.
By adjusting the bolt up, you reduce the space between the control arm and spring itself, thus the control arm rises, and that is what drops the car. If you cut the bushing or remove the bolt, you reduce that distance between spring and control arm even more, further dropping the car. Once the sping is riding directly on the control arm, there is nothing more you can do to lower it further, short of removing the fiberglss monoleaf spring and installing coilovers.

The rear bolts are a different story, since the spring rides below the control arm, the spring is actually pulling the arm down via the bolts...in this instance, yes, a bolt is absolutely necessary.

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
The bolt is simply threaded through the spring.
The bottom end of the bolt (the bushing) presses down on the control arm. It always touches the arm, even when you jack the car up.
By adjusting the bolt up, you reduce the space between the control arm and spring itself, thus the control arm rises, and that is what drops the car. If you cut the bushing or remove the bolt, you reduce that distance between spring and control arm even more, further dropping the car. Once the sping is riding directly on the control arm, there is nothing more you can do to lower it further, short of removing the fiberglss monoleaf spring and installing coilovers.

The rear bolts are a different story, since the spring rides below the control arm, the spring is actually pulling the arm down via the bolts...in this instance, yes, a bolt is absolutely necessary.

I had it lowered as much as I could go on the stock bolts. As you can see in the pic. the rear still wasn't that low. So I got longer bolts for the rear and that dropped it quite abit. I like the way the rear sits now but now I think I need to go a little lower on the front to make it match up. Sorry I don't have a pic. of it after I lowered it with longer bolts. Thanks for the help man. I didn't know that I could take the front bolts out.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
The bolt is simply threaded through the spring.
The bottom end of the bolt (the bushing) presses down on the control arm. It always touches the arm, even when you jack the car up.
By adjusting the bolt up, you reduce the space between the control arm and spring itself, thus the control arm rises, and that is what drops the car. If you cut the bushing or remove the bolt, you reduce that distance between spring and control arm even more, further dropping the car. Once the sping is riding directly on the control arm, there is nothing more you can do to lower it further, short of removing the fiberglss monoleaf spring and installing coilovers.

The rear bolts are a different story, since the spring rides below the control arm, the spring is actually pulling the arm down via the bolts...in this instance, yes, a bolt is absolutely necessary.

Hi Y2Kvert4me -

Great explanation!

I will likely try cutting one step from the front bushing on my Z and then longer bolts on the rear. I run 19" CCW's with 30 series tire4s, so the stock bolts did not take it quite far enough.

I have been warned by several folks about the ride deteriorating etc when you go too low, but I will experiment and go a little at a time. It is much easier with a lift....

best regards -

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I was a little leary about removing the bolts too, until I took it all apart and really understood how it works. My bolts are GONE and I LOVE the look!
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mqqn
Hi Y2Kvert4me -

Great explanation!

I will likely try cutting one step from the front bushing on my Z and then longer bolts on the rear. I run 19" CCW's with 30 series tire4s, so the stock bolts did not take it quite far enough.

I have been warned by several folks about the ride deteriorating etc when you go too low, but I will experiment and go a little at a time. It is much easier with a lift....

best regards -

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Pic of mine with all the front rubber bushings cut, but bolts and pad still in and all the way in (the CCWs raised the car up overall vs stock):
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I was a little leary about removing the bolts too, until I took it all apart and really understood how it works. My bolts are GONE and I LOVE the look!
Do you have a picture of your vette?
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Originally Posted by t56gen3
Pic of mine with all the front rubber bushings cut, but bolts and pad still in and all the way in (the CCWs raised the car up overall vs stock):
looking good man
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Answers are here http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...4&forum_id=103

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Originally Posted by t56gen3
Pic of mine with all the front rubber bushings cut, but bolts and pad still in and all the way in (the CCWs raised the car up overall vs stock):
Hi t56gen3 -

Oh yea! That's the look!

you are right - I notice that my wife's coupe is lower on the stock bottoms than my Z is - and there is a lot more room in the wheel wells on my Z with the CCW / Pirelli combo.

I assume you did some linger bolts on the rear as well - mine looks almost factory with the 4x4 look even though it is all the way down on the stock bolts.....

This might be how I spent my sunday.....thanks for the great pic and info!

best regards -

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Front bolts removed still on stock rear bolts
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Take the the bolts right out http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=dy11ys
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Front bolt removed. 19/20's & tubbed.

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