Accidentally Hit Reverse
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Titusville FL
I have a stock shifter right now, but I ordered the RSD Snap shifter last night. I know for sure the clutch was definitely pressed to the floor. I'm sure if this was a clutching issue, it wouldn't have anything to do with letting me into the reverse position. The last time it did this to me, I pulled the shifter down to see if it'd go into 6th. I did not. I had to move the shifter to the left to get it into 6th. It's definitely letting me into the reverse position.
Let us know how the RSD shifter performs...I'm considering on and I'd like tom hear your review.
Let us know how the RSD shifter performs...I'm considering on and I'd like tom hear your review.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Los Angeles California
Hi There;
I don't think you hit reverse as the lock out feature prevents this from occuring.I think what you did was what most of us do once in great while when we run through the gears. Your in 4th & shift to 5th but hit 3rd gear instead & the rpm needle goes into the red zone.
robsc501
I don't think you hit reverse as the lock out feature prevents this from occuring.I think what you did was what most of us do once in great while when we run through the gears. Your in 4th & shift to 5th but hit 3rd gear instead & the rpm needle goes into the red zone.
robsc501
1st Gear
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: NY
I think it very unfortunate that GM positioned reverse at the upper right of the shift pattern on manual C5s. With these miserable-shifting transmissions it is not hard to go for 5th and not hit it. Reverse should be next to first, on the other side of the pattern. Or down next to 6th gear--you'd be less likely to boggle 5-to-6 than 4-to-5.
Pro
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Waco Texas
I totally agree and have been saying that since I got my 05 in November. Race cars (for the track) have a latch or button you must use before shifting into reverse. I want that....I grinded the gears going into 5th twice recently. Messes with your confidence. Hate it...havent tried 5th since.
Team Owner
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From: Down the Shore New Jersey, Elev.3 feet
St. Jude Donor '17
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Westchester County, NY
Sorry, but these guys have no idea what they're saying. You amy have caused a problem and the only way to fix it is............................
Now say you're sorry by spending $$$$$$$ on mods!!!!
Glad you don't have a problem
Now say you're sorry by spending $$$$$$$ on mods!!!!
Glad you don't have a problem
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: LAND OF OZ Kansas
I have; I did it on my automatic 5.0, and I ended on a dich. We had about 2" of snow on the ground, and I was heading to work at 5am. The car starte sliding, and I tried to get it out of gear, and I accidentally hit reverse.
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Safety Car
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Louisville KY
The same thing happened to me. After the second time I took it into the dealer, I was still under warrenty. The reverse lockout soliender was defective. It is a real pain in the butt to replace. I have had not one bad shift since the new one went in.
Mine is a 03 6 speed also.
Mine is a 03 6 speed also.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Honolulu, HI
My lockout has stuck in the disabled position before, letting the shifter move quite easily into R from 4th. Luckily I wasn't ripping shifts so there was only a little bit of grinding before I was able to back off.
It has done that twice, both times it was very apparent that the lockout was not working. After wiggling the shifter left-right through the neutral range the lockout would start working again.
It has done that twice, both times it was very apparent that the lockout was not working. After wiggling the shifter left-right through the neutral range the lockout would start working again.
I've had this exact same issue before.
Believe us the "lockout" can fail...
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Indian Rocks Beach FL
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Your reverse lockout actuator is out for sure. No other way you can hit reverse without being a pretty strong guy and over power the spring inside the lockout solonoid. Can be done for sure, but not with normal or race style shifting. Definatly need the solonoid replaced, or as others don't suggest but saves $150 is to remove the innards of the solonoid so it doesn't work at all. Mine went out on the opposite stroke of said actuator and would make it a "strong guys with both hands" to get in reverse every time!! Got old real quick. Yours is doing opposite, it never locks up!
'97-'00
When the Reverse Inhibit solenoid energizes, the operator can shift the transmission into reverse. The PCM enables the Reverse Inhibit solenoid whenever vehicle speed is below 5 mph. When the vehicle speed is above 5 mph, the PCM de-energizes the solenoid, which prevents the operator from shifting the transmission into reverse.
As you can see when you turn the key power is applied to the solenoid allowing you to shift into reverse. Once you hit 5 MPH it prevents you from shifting into reverse. If the solenoid or the circuit is faulty it will not energize and will prevent you from shifting into reverse at all times. The '01-'04 cars work the opposite way.
'01-'04
With the ignition ON battery voltage is supplied directly to the reverse inhibit solenoid. At forward speeds above 5 kp/h (3 mph) the PCM grounds the control circuit of the reverse inhibit solenoid. This energizes the solenoid and mechanically blocks the shift lever from going into the REVERSE position.
If the solenoid is faulty it will never block a shift into reverse.
Instructor
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Lakewood WA
Did the same thing twice in my '02 about a month ago.
I had just picked my car up from a shop for tranny repair. After the repair vss sensor in the rear diff was fouled and not transmitting a signal to the computer so the speedometer was reading 0. I was pretty upset and was roaring up onto the freeway when I hit reverse twice. I wasn't thinking about the fact that the car didn't know that it was moving so it was not preventing me from trying R. My immediate impression was that I now didn't have 5th gear! Then I was really pissed!
After stopping in a parking lot and carefully rowing through the gears I figured out that I was grinding R, not 5th.
I had just picked my car up from a shop for tranny repair. After the repair vss sensor in the rear diff was fouled and not transmitting a signal to the computer so the speedometer was reading 0. I was pretty upset and was roaring up onto the freeway when I hit reverse twice. I wasn't thinking about the fact that the car didn't know that it was moving so it was not preventing me from trying R. My immediate impression was that I now didn't have 5th gear! Then I was really pissed!
After stopping in a parking lot and carefully rowing through the gears I figured out that I was grinding R, not 5th.
Le Mans Master
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From: ALL governments are legalized mobsters, so doesn't matter where I live :(
Sounds like the clutch was not pressed in all the way...OR, as you say, if it was pressed in all the way, then maybe you released it prematurely before having it in gear ...can't really be anything else. Trust me, it's happened to most of us at one time or another.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Los Angeles California
The reverse lock out solenoid can go bad. So, yes, it can happen. If I didn't see it happen for myself, I wouldn't believe it. But when the reverse lights flash, it's obvious you're not in 5th gear.
Take our word on it, the reverse lock out DOES go bad.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Aug 2009
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From: ALL governments are legalized mobsters, so doesn't matter where I live :(
Haven't read most of this thread, I take it.
The reverse lock out solenoid can go bad. So, yes, it can happen. If I didn't see it happen for myself, I wouldn't believe it. But when the reverse lights flash, it's obvious you're not in 5th gear.
Take our word on it, the reverse lock out DOES go bad.
The reverse lock out solenoid can go bad. So, yes, it can happen. If I didn't see it happen for myself, I wouldn't believe it. But when the reverse lights flash, it's obvious you're not in 5th gear.
Take our word on it, the reverse lock out DOES go bad.
DAMNIT
Just checked it a little more thorough this time...I learned something new about reverse lock out. Sorry my A.D.D. and O.C.B kicked in simultaneously, lol
Race Director
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From: Long Island NY
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Yea i know this theread is from 05, but defenitely is good info, yea i just did this today trying to go from 4th into 5th, but of course i went into reverse , the vert started screaming (grinding) of course i went into neutral and drove to the side of the road, i tried it again with no problem. the grinding sound is INSANE, fingers crossed all is OK
