Consumer Reports this morning....
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2002
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From: Kona Hawaii
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05
Originally Posted by C5~Missle
The consumer reports I recently received gave the 03 -04 vettes high marks in all categorys... but they still don't "recommend" them. But consider the source; CR knows nothing about performance cars. They are only concerned about the size of the cupholder and glovebox.
The column lock , window motor problems are relatively minor, yet they count against the car like it was total engine failure.
I dont hold much value in CR reporting when it comes to cars... but if you are looking for a toaster...
The column lock , window motor problems are relatively minor, yet they count against the car like it was total engine failure.
I dont hold much value in CR reporting when it comes to cars... but if you are looking for a toaster...
perfect...........
Racer
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Grace Valley: A small, peaceful & beautiful valley in the Volunteer State
This is without a doubt one of the most useless, misinformed threads I've ever read. CR itself doesn't like foreign cars or dislike U.S. cars or American Products, it is simply reporting what their readers have experienced. The same with toasters, vacuum cleaners, and shampoos. Consider the "typical " CR subsriber and that will give you a clue (it is people who usually seek out information on what they buy rather than get sucked in with poor products and roll over and take it). I'm a long time subscriber to CR and use it as one guide in my consumerism. As to the person who referred to having to pay to read their reviews on the web, duh...there is a good reason...Guess what they don't take any $$$$$$ from advertisers. I wonder why??? Can you spell CONFLICT OF INTEREST?
Last edited by HeyVern; Nov 16, 2005 at 10:09 PM.
Le Mans Master
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From: N Carolina 08 Z51 Coupe
Originally Posted by HeyVern
This is without a doubt one of the most useless, misinformed threads I've ever read. CR itself doesn't like foreign cars or dislike U.S. cars or American Products, it is simply reporting what their readers have experienced. The same with toasters, vacuum cleaners, and shampoos. Consider the "typical " CR subsriber and that will give you a clue (it is people who usually seek out information on what they buy rather than get sucked in with poor products and roll over and take it). I'm a long time subscriber to CR and use it as one guide in my consumerism. As to the person who referred to having to pay to read their reviews on the web, duh...there is a good reason...Guess what they don't take any $$$$$$ from advertisers. I wonder why??? Can you spell CONFLICT OF INTEREST?
They rate everything... what makes you think they are experts when it comes to autos? Do you really think they have the ability to catregorize and determine which attributes are important to each group?
They do some things well.. Rating cars is not one of them..
Racer
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From: Grace Valley: A small, peaceful & beautiful valley in the Volunteer State
Originally Posted by C5~Missle
They provide misleading information, they know little to nothing about sports cars. You don't use the same rules to measure every car. They don't distinguish between a customer sat issue of cupholder size vs engine failure. If you read the specs on the later corvettes you will see above average in almost all areas, yet they are not recommended, why? Because it doesn't hold much cargo, too noisy, gas pedal causes facial distortion, it uses too much gas... they rate this as all being BAD. Yet these are the reasons people buy sport cars.
They rate everything... what makes you think they are experts when it comes to autos? Do you really think they have the ability to catregorize and determine which attributes are important to each group?
They do some things well.. Rating cars is not one of them..
They rate everything... what makes you think they are experts when it comes to autos? Do you really think they have the ability to catregorize and determine which attributes are important to each group?
They do some things well.. Rating cars is not one of them..
y'all are confusing their ratings...from readers who are not sport car byers vs. their reviews, done by testing of their own staff. If one of us started off to buy a car based on "consumer" values (repairs, resale value, etc) we'd end up with a Camrey or some such. ( I don't even know these kind of cars because I've never owned a foreign car except a Jag Vert and that was after Ford bought them and my son works for Ford so I got one on the A-Plan and kept it only for 3 years and went back to the U.S. 
). We buy a car on what entices us, what seduces us, what we love to put mods on. If you did a survey of CR readers to see how much they spend on mods, it would probably be $35 for plastic floor mats. I don't even trust their toaster reviews, I simply use them as one source of data along with website reviews by those who have bought the products. C'mon guys ignore the unenlightened.
Last edited by HeyVern; Nov 16, 2005 at 11:09 PM.
Drifting
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From: Woodlake,The hill is without the king, California
St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by VRROOOM2
It's like anything... If you love her enough, you won't see all of her little flaws that everyone else does... and you get to go home with her at night!!! 
Besides... who cares what CR has to say... We know better...
So....
Relax, enjoy and watch 'em lust after her...
Besides... who cares what CR has to say... We know better...
So....
Relax, enjoy and watch 'em lust after her...
Race Director
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Originally Posted by C5~Missle
The consumer reports I recently received gave the 03 -04 vettes high marks in all categorys... but they still don't "recommend" them. But consider the source; CR knows nothing about performance cars. They are only concerned about the size of the cupholder and glovebox.
The column lock , window motor problems are relatively minor, yet they count against the car like it was total engine failure.
I dont hold much value in CR reporting when it comes to cars... but if you are looking for a toaster...
The column lock , window motor problems are relatively minor, yet they count against the car like it was total engine failure.
I dont hold much value in CR reporting when it comes to cars... but if you are looking for a toaster...
Safety Car
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From: Clark NJ
St. Jude Donor '05 thru '26
Originally Posted by Tom/99
I don't think Consumer Reports like anything that is American made.
If it had a Honda label on it Consumer Reports would have loved it. Consumer Reports is FOS!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Olympia WA
I worked for Honda for 20 yrs, if CR knew what I know they wouldn't rate that well. The diff between Chev and Honda is they address the problems, Chev doesn't, (fuel guage, CLB, axle seal,ect.) BUT I own one anyway. Don't have much faith in CR bought a dryer that rated high, was the biggest piece of s--t ever made.
Drifting
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From: Greensboro, NC "REALITY IS MERELY AN ILLUSION, ALBEIT A VERY PERSISTENT ONE"...ALBERT EINSTEIN"
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07
Originally Posted by TripleBlackxTwo
Or Bill Clinton rating cigars.
It's Monica's rating that really counted! 
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Racer
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From: ft. Worth tx.
Originally Posted by ben dover
Consumer Reports sucks.
As far as my '03 C5,its flawless so far @ 3200 mi.,to early to tell.But had an '88 Fiero V6 180,000+ mi. no major problems.Now my DD is a '98 Camaro V6 50,000+ ,good vehicle.The car was never back to the dealer once!I could go on & on, on some of the great Ford & GM vehicles I owned.The Ford I had the most trouble with was a Probe,mostly trans & engine prob,& guess what, both were ***. made!
Lets see how vehicles fare in the frozen tundra of NW In.,were the temps dip around -30*f.The Honda & Nissan we had never could start at those temps.Maybe CR only tests cars in sunny california,They're located there I think?
Racer
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From: ft. Worth tx.
Amen
Originally Posted by ICaughtVetteFever
I agree, CR hates US automakers, do a google for more info if you like, I read all about why they are like that when I saw my Cadillac was rated poorly also. CR is a rag, don't beleive a word they say.
