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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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I think ive narrowed it down to this one, Any reviews or advice befire i make the purchase? Also I wasnt an alluminum flywheel, Is that worth it? I will be running the STS twin turbo setup with a high boost setting about 600 plus horse and want to keep it after i forge the bottom end and really crank up the psi. is it daily driveable? Who has it cheapest? thanks!
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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I like my Spec Stage 3. Drives great and grips, feels like stock with slightly a lil more pedal pressure. Replace your master/slave cylinders as well with new GM units. Also, dont get an aluminum flywheel if it's a street car. There will be more chatter and a few issues. I got a lightweight Billet Steel one and and more than pleased... Mine's a daily driver.

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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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I like my Spec Stage 3. Drives great and grips, feels like stock with slightly a lil more pedal pressure. Replace your master/slave cylinders as well with new GM units. Also, dont get an aluminum flywheel if it's a street car. There will be more chatter and a few issues. I got a lightweight Billet Steel one and and more than pleased... Mine's a daily driver.

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I jsut drive when im home on leave and thats like summer and holidays till next year, whats the differenve between alluminum and the billet steel? im not wirried about chatter, ym stock ones chatters like its going out of style, or are you talking it chatters all the time? how much are the master slave units and how much for an instilation am i looking?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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They carry it, any suggestions on better prices, tehy seem to be the best so far.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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Aluminum flywheel will make your ride sound like a cememt truck with the mixer running. Just an fyi.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Aluminum flywheel will make your ride sound like a cememt truck with the mixer running. Just an fyi.
I have a Spec Stage 3 and aluminum flywheel and it's quiet as the stock clutch. If I engage it without enough rpm's and put a little foot into it from a stop I'll get some chatter, but I don't get it unless mess up. For my setup it's been great. I had some balance issues at first but they were straightened out.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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I have a spec III with the steel flywheel...

After doing research on this forum - many people raved about it and said it was the clutch to have, etc.. After i purchased mine, i started to read nothing but problems with shuttering etc..

I broke mine in to the T per their directions - this thing still chatters like a SOB and has gotten to the point where my wife will not ride in it because of it. (have over 10k on the clutch)

I also had an experience a few weeks ago where i was at the track and the clutch decided to fuze itself with the flywheel - no more clutch. (I have only taken the car to the track 3 times on this clutch - maybe a total of 10 passes)

From day 1 I have called spec and complained multiple times about the chattering and just recently over the clutch fuzing.. Their customer service is Non-existant. When i called about the fuzing they said "Huh, never heard of that one before" when other members of this forum and ls1tech have called numerous times with the same problem and recieved the same answer.

It seems very touch and go - some people have no problems, others have nitemares. It's not like it is easy to change a clutch in these cars, so i would recommend doing it right the first time vs paying double labor charges if/when you replace it.

And this is all with only 500RWHP - the clutch is rated a bit higher then this.

I would look elsewhere for a clutch, maybe trexilla?

btw - the slave can be had for about $100 from fred beans. (good insurance)

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how much are the textralia cluches? any problems with these? and this chatter is only getting into gear, not all the time right? Did you notive any differnece with anything positive with the aluminum flywheel over the stock one?
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You may be able to call ECS and ask them - I believe they have been putting textralia clutches in a bunch of cars lately. The spec 3 is a finger clutch which is more prone to the chattering vs a solid disk. I think they run $900-ish. (i believe this includes teh flywheel)

I have also heard very good things about the new ls7 clutch, that is about $550 including flywheel, but not sure what power levels it is good for (i think at least 500) - you could do some research on this as well.
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THanks, im looking at running in the neighborhood of 700, so i figured id do the cluch once, ill give ecs a call, see whats up. THanks
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I can't remember reading any negative post on the Textrailia on this forum. Might be one to check out.
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I previously had the Spec 3 clutch w/aluminum flywheel in my car.
I did experienced slight chatter when pulling out a low rpm's.
All that was needed was learning to rev a little higher when pulling out from dead stops to eliminate the chatter.
I'm having the same flywheel installed with my Textralia clutch while it's at the shop now and will post how this set-up performs later.
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I have the SPEC III with the aluminum flywheel. I have 100+ passes at the track and 10,000+ miles with no issues. It has been a great clutch for me thus far.

You must adjust your driving style a bit with this clutch. It is either “on” or “off” If you try to ease it out or “ride” it, it will chatter. Once you get used to it, it will drive pretty much like stock.

That said; your anticipated horsepower levels may exceed the limitations of this clutch. You may want to consider something a bit more heavy duty.
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That said; your anticipated horsepower levels may exceed the limitations of this clutch. You may want to consider something a bit more heavy duty.
what would you suggest that is more heavy duity?
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what would you suggest that is more heavy duity?
i just picked up SPECS stage 3 "PLUS" clutch.... something you should consider looking into. supposed to be same driveability as stage 3, but hold power like a stage 5, like 800hp.
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i just picked up SPECS stage 3 "PLUS" clutch.... something you should consider looking into. supposed to be same driveability as stage 3, but hold power like a stage 5, like 800hp.
Ill take a look into it, thanks
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Originally Posted by NAVY08
Ill take a look into it, thanks
installing it friday, ill let you know how it is.... not like i have the power to really push the clutch to its limits though!!
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Definately do the spec 3 "plus". I started with the standard 3 and that clutch whas chattery, noisy, and inconsistant. I installed one of the first plus clutches made and love it. Put it this way, my car is a 12.2/114mph car that recently broke a "right" output shaft. I think one of the reasons is because when that clutch gripped, it sent "all" available horses to the rear wheels. This clutch is smooth, easy to use, and grips hard. It feels a little stiffer then stock and doesn't require raising rpm to get rolling, even with the Fidanza flywheel. My $.02, stay away from the standard 3 and go right to the plus.
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I have the Spec Stg 3 w/ an Aluminum F-wheel in my 02' Z and I F'N HATE IT!! I was warned by several people beforehand that I wouldn't like it, but I chose to hear what I wanted. Now I'm to the point where I honestly hate driving my car because of it (I'm being dead serious).

I've owned performance/muscle cars my whole life, I've drag raced since I was old enough to sign the Track Waiver. I've used Centerforce clutches in my Mustangs that were so stiff my left leg would cramp after driving, I've had McLeod Clutches clutches in my Fbodies that would hold 800 rwhp and grenade trannies without blinking, I've had RAM clutches, I've used Hayes clutches...essentially what I'm saying is that I'm not some little pansy, cry baby that wants a clutch that'll hold 1000 hp w/ the pedal pressure and driveability of a Honda Accord clutch. I know that clutches are about give and take when it comes to performance vs driveability.

So having said all of that...the Spec clutch is garbage. Like someone else has already stated, it's either "ON" or "OFF". There is no in-between. So you either stall the car, or you lurch it forward snapping the necks of passengers (and barking tires). I can deal with that though....what I cannot deal with is the "bonus features" that it offers. It also has the "diesal dump truck" emulation device built in, where the flywheel proceeds to shake and rattle throughout the drivetrain while I'm stopped at lights (There's nothing like having cars around you stare and ask "Is there something wrong w/ your car?"...or better yet when your passenger says, "This is a really nice car...but it sounds like it's about to fall apart! That's the greatest feeling in the world). Luckily it will go away if you hold the clutch pedal in while stopped at lights. The best part is that when the car is warmed up, the clutch will let out a loud squeel/screech as you attempt to drive away from a stop. Ever heard a squeeling powersteering belt? It's melodious compared to the Spec Clutch.

...and yes, I broke the clutch in as perscribed. 500 miles of varied driving with no high rpms shifts. When Spec was asked about this...they stated, "You need to find some RR tracks and drive over them several times...the vibration will help seat it". ARE YOU F'N KIDDING ME???? (He was not)

So...for those of you that won the "Spec Lottery" and have one that works...consider yourself part of the lucky 50%...because that's about what it seems...half of them work...half of them don't. In the words of Dirty Harry..."Navy08, do you feel lucky?"
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