[Z06] Winter mods.. cam recommendations needed.
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Winter mods.. cam recommendations needed.
Winter is here so it’s time to plan for spring, I’m thinking of porting and polishing the heads and a new cam.
Big is good but I still want reliability and driveability, thoughts please.
thanks
HAPPY THANKSGIVING
Big is good but I still want reliability and driveability, thoughts please.
thanks
HAPPY THANKSGIVING
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The LG G5X3 cam on a 114 lsa seems to be a winning combo with the Z06, using the stock heads and stock intake/TB. Many here have gotten as much as 430+ rwhp/400 rwtq from this cam, and yet it retains excellent street driving characteristics.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
Drifting
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Originally Posted by Geneus
The LG G5X3 cam on a 114 lsa seems to be a winning combo with the Z06, using the stock heads and stock intake/TB. Many here have gotten as much as 430+ rwhp/400 rwtq from this cam, and yet it retains excellent street driving characteristics.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
Isn't that your cam selection??
Todd Griffith
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Originally Posted by zo6vetteman2003
Hey Geneus,
Isn't that your cam selection??
Todd Griffith
Isn't that your cam selection??
Todd Griffith
Yes...i have the G5X3 and have recommended it to many. However, there are a whole lot of choices, and one needs to decide what fits with ones current/future mods scheme. I have a friend who has the TREX cam and it was the right choice for him. Robz has the Cartek X3 cam, and noone will dispute how that has performed for him.
As I said...choice is a good thing.
Drifting
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Originally Posted by Geneus
Todd,
Yes...i have the G5X3 and have recommended it to many. However, there are a whole lot of choices, and one needs to decide what fits with ones current/future mods scheme. I have a friend who has the TREX cam and it was the right choice for him. Robz has the Cartek X3 cam, and noone will dispute how that has performed for him.
As I said...choice is a good thing.
Yes...i have the G5X3 and have recommended it to many. However, there are a whole lot of choices, and one needs to decide what fits with ones current/future mods scheme. I have a friend who has the TREX cam and it was the right choice for him. Robz has the Cartek X3 cam, and noone will dispute how that has performed for him.
As I said...choice is a good thing.
I thought maybe you did not recognize me as zo6vetteman2003 so:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ad.php?t=75161
Yes, I agree on calling the cam help line.
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Geneus
The LG G5X3 cam on a 114 lsa seems to be a winning combo with the Z06, using the stock heads and stock intake/TB. Many here have gotten as much as 430+ rwhp/400 rwtq from this cam, and yet it retains excellent street driving characteristics.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
Le Mans Master
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From: Hillsborough NJ
Originally Posted by zo6vetteman2003
Hey Geneus,
I thought maybe you did not recognize me as zo6vetteman2003 so:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ad.php?t=75161
Yes, I agree on calling the cam help line.
I thought maybe you did not recognize me as zo6vetteman2003 so:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ad.php?t=75161
Yes, I agree on calling the cam help line.
BTW, noone should listen to CYA-Vett...Dave wants to sell his Z and buy a Rustang.
Pro
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From: Anaheim Hills CA
Originally Posted by Geneus
The LG G5X3 cam on a 114 lsa seems to be a winning combo with the Z06, using the stock heads and stock intake/TB. Many here have gotten as much as 430+ rwhp/400 rwtq from this cam, and yet it retains excellent street driving characteristics.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
The TREX cam is another good option, and Cartek also offers a choice with either their 2x or 3x cams. Lots to choose from, and they are all very good.
This might seem like a silly question, but I have barely started looking into a Cam......
if I look into one of the ones you listed above, would I need to upgrade my springs/valves/lifters/rockers or ANYTHING?
I'm looking for a "cam only" type package.....how much should I expect to pay for a cam only? and about how much are labor costs these days for a cam?
This is my daily driver ('04 z06) and I have a few mods (headers, intake, catback, tune, 398rwhp) and not looking to do anything more after the cam (heads are out of my budget)......
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From: Hillsborough NJ
Originally Posted by pb24dagrk
This might seem like a silly question, but I have barely started looking into a Cam......
if I look into one of the ones you listed above, would I need to upgrade my springs/valves/lifters/rockers or ANYTHING?
I'm looking for a "cam only" type package.....how much should I expect to pay for a cam only? and about how much are labor costs these days for a cam?
This is my daily driver ('04 z06) and I have a few mods (headers, intake, catback, tune, 398rwhp) and not looking to do anything more after the cam (heads are out of my budget)......
if I look into one of the ones you listed above, would I need to upgrade my springs/valves/lifters/rockers or ANYTHING?
I'm looking for a "cam only" type package.....how much should I expect to pay for a cam only? and about how much are labor costs these days for a cam?
This is my daily driver ('04 z06) and I have a few mods (headers, intake, catback, tune, 398rwhp) and not looking to do anything more after the cam (heads are out of my budget)......
Drifting
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From: Middleboro Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Geneus
Sorry about that, Todd. I think its old age creeping up on me...LOL.
BTW, noone should listen to CYA-Vett...Dave wants to sell his Z and buy a Rustang.
BTW, noone should listen to CYA-Vett...Dave wants to sell his Z and buy a Rustang.
Drifting
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From: Middleboro Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Geneus
I'm not sure what the costs would be if you have this done where you are, but around here a "cam only" package (with a big cam) would run somewhere around $2500-$2800, and that would include tuning. With this is included dual springs (Comp 921's are the best...and the most expensive), hardened pushrods, dual roller timing chain, porting of the oil pump, and typically a UD pulley. If you contact LG, he sells all of these components (with the exception of porting the oil pump) as a "turn key" kit if you are a DIY'er for his G5X3 cam...I thinks its ~ $1500. Remember that about $500 of that cost is for the springs...a very important aspect in a "big" cam install. I am told the stock rockers/lifters on the Z are more than sufficient.
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Originally Posted by pb24dagrk
This is my daily driver ('04 z06) and I have a few mods (headers, intake, catback, tune, 398rwhp) and not looking to do anything more after the cam (heads are out of my budget)......
This is what we all say......And I bet at first, you said ONLY headers....Am I right???
What do you plan on doing with the car? Will you be racing it? If so go with the G5X3 cam (which is too big
), it is proven and very popular but if you are just going to drive around town and want your car to sound mean and get good power I'd go with the MTI X1, that cam isn't too big but sounds nasty (bigger) and unlike to G5X3, you will get power from idle to redline. The G5X3 will make more peak power but not until you hit the higher RPM's. I ran 11.5 with the X1 and made 417HP 407 torque, it will give you more torque too.No matter what cam you get, you will need springs, pushrods, new gaskets/seals and its always a good idea to upgrade the timing chain too since the car will already be apart and replacing doesn't cost a thing, same goes for an underdrive pulley...
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No matter what cam you get, you will need springs, pushrods, new gaskets/seals and its always a good idea to upgrade the timing chain too since the car will already be apart and replacing doesn't cost a thing, same goes for an underdrive pulley...[/QUOTE]
And get the comp 921 dual springs for sure as the few extra hundred is well worth it and i have never heard of this spring failing!!
ITs a no brainer, the G5X3 is a battle tested performer to be used on a stock headed LS6 motor and you will want to keep the lsa at 114 so you do not have to do any flycutting of the piston. Another great choice afe the Allan Futrual LSX grinds and in your case the FM11 or so would be great with specs similar to something like 232/234 on a 112 lsa a .590 lift, etc. Call ALLAN at FUTRAL MOTORSPROTS and let a rea expert point you in the right direction but can't go wrong with the G5X3!!
And get the comp 921 dual springs for sure as the few extra hundred is well worth it and i have never heard of this spring failing!!ITs a no brainer, the G5X3 is a battle tested performer to be used on a stock headed LS6 motor and you will want to keep the lsa at 114 so you do not have to do any flycutting of the piston. Another great choice afe the Allan Futrual LSX grinds and in your case the FM11 or so would be great with specs similar to something like 232/234 on a 112 lsa a .590 lift, etc. Call ALLAN at FUTRAL MOTORSPROTS and let a rea expert point you in the right direction but can't go wrong with the G5X3!!
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From: Gilbert AZ
Originally Posted by Geneus
I'm not sure what the costs would be if you have this done where you are, but around here a "cam only" package (with a big cam) would run somewhere around $2500-$2800, and that would include tuning. With this is included dual springs (Comp 921's are the best...and the most expensive), hardened pushrods, dual roller timing chain, porting of the oil pump, and typically a UD pulley. If you contact LG, he sells all of these components (with the exception of porting the oil pump) as a "turn key" kit if you are a DIY'er for his G5X3 cam...I thinks its ~ $1500. Remember that about $500 of that cost is for the springs...a very important aspect in a "big" cam install.
I am told the stock rockers/lifters on the Z are more than sufficient.
I am told the stock rockers/lifters on the Z are more than sufficient.
The cam was just as bad!!
No one would take responsibility for the problem so I had to eat all costs!!
Just a heads up!!
Ken
