I'm toying with the idea of putting in a supercharger in my Z. Who out there has one? What kind? Problems? Good points? Did you have to buy any unexpected extras?

All opinions welcome.

 

lots of people run a sc.
i recommend a&a kit.
a search will give you LOTS of threads on this.

 

Obviously, you want to add power to your car. How do you intend to use the car after supercharging? Street? Strip? ???

 

Check the FI section of the forum, it's all about turbo's and superchargers.

 

That's the question, if you want to take your car to a curvy track, extra HP is the last thing you need, and if adding weight to the front is not good either.

 

Lots of great info!!!!

 

I've had two. The first was a very early (#6) Magnusen kit with the Eaton M-112, back before they were intercooled. It was one of the most complete, perfect fitting, no hassle kits or upgrades I've ever done. I put it on my '02 in May 02 and drove it for over 2 years and 12000 miles, including many 1/4 miles. With LT headers, H-pipe and catback it made about 480 RWHP. 11.55 was the best quarter until I tubbed the rear wheel wells with the Kingenfelter min-tub kit and put on 345 drag radials-->11.25.

In Sept. 04 I installed a C5R-based engine (and sold the original and the Magnusen). After getting this running well N/A and 5000 miles I put on a Procharger D1SC ( I would hae kept a Magnusen only it was clear it would not blown enough air, and neither would the more common Prcharger P1). This fit pretty well (actually we had a hassle because it would not fit nicely with the double row radiator I added for the bigger engine, but that's is not their fault). It's gone about 6500 miles so far and works perfectly. They (and I) were guessing at which pulley size to use with a 427 with such good heads (long story, but it breathes really well) and I went back and forth with Procharger for two months and six pulley sizes -- they were always supportive and helpful.

For a stock short block engine I would recommend the Magnusen, for two reasons: 1) you give up a bit at the top end vs a centrifugal like a Procharger orvortech, but it builds boost down lower in RPM, 2) it has the most beautfiul howl at full throttle I have every heard, MUCH better than the others. On the other hand you have to switch out for a high rise hood which costs about $1500 with painting costs.

 

i love my i/c maggie, no problems,looks great, sounds great

 

Magnuson I/C. No problems whatsoever. ONLY good points...no bad points. Unexpected extras? Boost and fuel pressure gauges but they weren't "unexpected".

Charlie

 

I'd say hands-down to do it. I started by adding a cold air kit, and then LT headers. Both were really good mods and got me to around 330 rwhp. However, I just had an A&A P1SC installed with a dyno tune, and it is a totally different car. I went with the kit from Andy because it was on sale, at the time, for $4995. You need to change out the fuel pump, and you should install a set of gauges.

The result is a SAE rwhp of 490 (522 rwhp before correction) on stock heads and cam. The motor has never been opened up. I feel really good about that. My A/F ratio is constant at no higher than 11.8, and the timing is 18 degrees. The tune could have been more aggressive, but at 500 rwhp, I'm not complaining.

BTW, the only problem I have is obviously traction. I don't have a set of drag radials yet, and it is not tubbed, so you can only imagine. I have way more hp than the the car can hook. I have the stock 3.42 gears, and it is silly to hit the gas in first. The tires break loose almost entirely through second gear as well. If I can't hook on a procharger, I can only imagine how nasty it would be on a maggie where all the power is down low. My advice is, no matter what you do, just do it!

 

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[QUOTE=Z06RL]I'm toying with the idea of putting in a supercharger in my Z. Who out there has one? What kind? Problems? Good points? Did you have to buy any unexpected extras?

After the way I'm whizzing. I say get some jacob's wire's new tr-55's .062 gap makes electrode flat to center (important)
Indexed (hook-up) all 8 extra 45 minutes to do, free
Halltech stinger.
Window mod,or Dave 68 mod Surprizing the feel of this 50 and above and I dyno'd 366.9 sae with-out and it's free
Head for the tuner, then service the crap out it, all fluids changed bumper to bumper. Master the Driving gootta be happy. with that
put the extra to the bank if you have a payment.

 

I think u should find someone with a forced induction z and go for a ride. That's what got me hooked!

 

I think it is a good idea. I'm putting on a Stage II Procharger over the winter. No need for a new hood either. Sort of a sleeper lol! I am getting a sweet deal on one with the tuning package about $900.00 off the usual price.

 

I just recently had one put on my car, and I can say that I'd never go back at this point. It's a thrill to drive. If you can find someone in your area, do go for a drive. Just be sure that if you do, that you go with a good system. Check out the postings in the FI section - that's what I did and learned a lot.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

Ray

 

[QUOTE=Rock'en Silver 02]

I couldn't have said it better.....unless I said it in Erdu.

 

[QUOTE=Rock'en Silver 02]
Oooohhkay.

 

See my sig of for my D1SC ECS KIT which has given me no problems and just huge smiles after 2400 miles on my 100% stock motor (heads have never been off and motor has never been opened up)!!

Definitely if you go with a centrifugal supercharger (CS) vs a magnacharger, you will make 100 more rwhp without the need to swap hoods, but will not have the stoplight to stoplight instant torque of the magnacharger. If you decide to go with the CS system vs. maggie, then certainly go with either the ECS or A&A complete SC kit that comes with everything you need to make the kit complete from racetronic fuel pump, injectors, all brackets, etc, etc. And in addition to that make sure an expert installs and tunes your SC KIT as this is crucial for the overall reliability and performance of your SC set-up!

HOWEVER, you line up a Z06 prepped like mine with its D1SC PROCHARGER vs a smilarly prepped maggie powered Z06 in the 1/4 the race would not even be close in favor of my stystem making 100 more rwhp. That being said, i am not trying to turn this into a maggie v centfugual supercharger argument, but instead just showing you the pros and cons with both systems and there are many pros and cons. If you want a street driven car primarily which will see alot of miles on it and roadtrip and not concerned about making the most power or 1/4 mile performance, etc., then i think you should go with the MAGNACHARGER!!!!

 

Magnuson is the most complete.

If you check out the Cadillac CTS-V forum, group buys go on a lot.

I like it so much on my CTS-V that I put one on my Z06.

WHOO HOO!

Get a Motor City Mold hood

 

It will definitely be street driven, not track. I have LG long tube headers on it now with the X pipe. But my BIGGEST problem is finding a shop fairly close by to do the work. I was considering Tony's in Gaithersburg MD.